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A Noachide's response to chr*stianity (Vanity)
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| Zionist Conspirator
Posted on 12/22/2008 2:27:13 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator
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To: ROTB
Here you be, though not as well put as in the original, lost version.
Note carefully: my imperfection, and the imperfection of every human being, is not an original discovery of yourself, nor does it in and of itself vindicate your religious beliefs.
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posted on
12/22/2008 2:29:27 PM PST
by
Zionist Conspirator
('Az 'egmor, beshir-mizmor, chanukkat-hamizbeach!)
To: familyop; onedoug; Alouette
I hope I haven’t said anything too terribly stupid.
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posted on
12/22/2008 2:30:33 PM PST
by
Zionist Conspirator
('Az 'egmor, beshir-mizmor, chanukkat-hamizbeach!)
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To: davisfh
That is a tradition of many Jews. It comes from the ancient tradition that the name of God should never be destroyed, thus it is written to not actually have the name of God so it can never be defiled or destroyed. Its original purpose was physical writing but it has become commonplace in all forms of communication and media.
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posted on
12/22/2008 2:36:48 PM PST
by
mnehring
(Happy Holy-Days!)
To: davisfh
I didnt read your entire postI was unaware that I had any emotional investment in your reading this post or not. I suppose I'm heartbroken, then?
because, quite frankly, I have much better things to do.
Go do them. I have absolutely no powers to compel disinterested parties to read posts which are not directed to them in the first place, nor do I want such powers.
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posted on
12/22/2008 2:40:55 PM PST
by
Zionist Conspirator
('Az 'egmor, beshir-mizmor, chanukkat-hamizbeach!)
To: Zionist Conspirator
“I will call upon my own prior beliefs as a Fundamentalist Protestant to lay out this “big picture” so that, whether the reader agrees or disagrees, he will understand”
Were you born a gentile?
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posted on
12/22/2008 2:50:35 PM PST
by
Augustinian monk
("Can't we try bombing them with kindness?")
To: Zionist Conspirator
I will simply note that, although they differ somewhat from what I believe as a Christian, your paragraphs beginning "Ultimately ...", and the one following, beginning "You will note ..." are a whole lot more Christian than I think you realize.
FWIW.
Baltimore Catechism:
Q: Why did God make me?
A: To know Him, love Him, and serve Him in this world, and to be happy with Him forever in the next.
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posted on
12/22/2008 2:52:13 PM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: Augustinian monk
Were you born a gentile?I am a gentile.
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posted on
12/22/2008 2:55:37 PM PST
by
Zionist Conspirator
('Az 'egmor, beshir-mizmor, chanukkat-hamizbeach!)
To: ArrogantBustard
We disagree about how this service and obedience is to be accomplished. Others (such as I in my youth) rejected the service of G-d altogether as a monstrous self-delusion. Man cannot serve G-d; he can only be passively saved by G-d. Any human activity or participation vitiated the entire concept.
I know, you find it strange (as do I now), but I still find it beautifully consistent (as I still do not find the ancient churches).
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posted on
12/22/2008 2:58:46 PM PST
by
Zionist Conspirator
('Az 'egmor, beshir-mizmor, chanukkat-hamizbeach!)
To: ArrogantBustard
Q: Why did God make me? A: To know Him, love Him, and serve Him in this world, and to be happy with Him forever in the next. Isn't this a little 'creating God in man's image?' With this, are we projecting man's emotional and ego needs onto God? Does God need to be loved? Does God need to be served? Does that need project a gap in God's being that needs to be filled? IMHO (with emphasis on the humble part)..
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posted on
12/22/2008 3:06:29 PM PST
by
mnehring
(Happy Holy-Days!)
To: mnehrling
I never said He “needs” any of those things, nor did the BC. In fact, the idea of God “needing” anything (as in not having it but requiring it for completeness) is absurd.
OTOH, He can and does choose to do whatever it is that He chooses to do for whatever reasons, that are beyond our comprehension. The BC answer does not pretend to be complete. I’ll ad that describing eternity in the present tense is itself inadequate, but it’s the best English has to offer.
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posted on
12/22/2008 3:11:54 PM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: Zionist Conspirator
I don’t find FP theology strange ... I just disagree with it.
As for the inconsistency you see in the ancient Churches ... I guess I don’t see it.
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posted on
12/22/2008 3:16:18 PM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: wideawake
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posted on
12/22/2008 3:17:16 PM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: Zionist Conspirator
The Torah foretells periods of destruction and exile when the sacrifices cannot be offered (these are always punishments for abandoning the Torah, not for "rejecting the messiah"). And when the real Mashiach comes it will not be subject to debate but a fact that no one on earth will be able to deny. So long as we're debating, then he hasn't come. Ping to read (again) later
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posted on
12/22/2008 3:24:51 PM PST
by
Alex Murphy
( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
To: Zionist Conspirator
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posted on
12/22/2008 3:27:17 PM PST
by
El Cid
(Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
To: ArrogantBustard
:) 26 words that equal the whole truth about that pesky question and answer. I have one on my shelf as well. Used it in my kids homeschooling.
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posted on
12/22/2008 3:37:03 PM PST
by
wombtotomb
(since its "above his paygrade", why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
To: Zionist Conspirator
>I hope I havent said anything too terribly stupid.
Welcome to the club! ;)
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posted on
12/22/2008 4:23:59 PM PST
by
ROTB
(GOD sez "You will not envy your neighbors' [anything]." Cut it our with class envy you Communists!)
To: Zionist Conspirator
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posted on
12/22/2008 4:24:16 PM PST
by
ROTB
(GOD sez "You will not envy your neighbors' [anything]." Cut it our with class envy you Communists!)
To: Zionist Conspirator
Interesting post.
Between your post, ROTB’s previous thread, and the various comments by other posters, I had to spend some time researching various terms and their definitions. LOL
I had no idea (and had never heard) what a Noachide was before your post.
Also, having read both threads and all of the comments fully, I was impressed that it had a bare minimum of flames.
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posted on
12/22/2008 4:33:06 PM PST
by
Col Freeper
(FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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