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To: Kolokotronis
Talk about blind faith...But your faith is in your religion, not God's Holy Words...

For example, you have doubtless heard of that woman who was elected heresiarch in chief of the Episcopal Church.

This is where reading scripture without reference to what The Church believes inevitably leads... to error and spiritual death.

Her problem is the same as many churches, including yours...PRIVATE INTERPRETATION...God is the interpreter...Not your church...Not thru your church...

I, of course that’s what I am saying. The only reason you read what you read for scripture, except for a few amendments made by Luther, is because “my church” decided that’s what you’d read.

Another mistake on your part...The scripture I read doesn't come from your church...Never did... And the OT I read is what God gave the Jews, long before your church showed up...And the Jews already had the canon of their scriptures down pat...

Your church has fed you a big line...

The only scripture is what The Church says is scripture and it only means what The Church says it means.

Interesting statement when it's clear that when people study the scriptures for themselves, even if they don't get it all right, they leave your church in droves...People that study the scriptures have found that what your church claims is truth doesn't jive with the written word of God...

Oh, and btw, your church didn't author the scriptures...God authored the scriptures and God said He would preserve them...He didn't consult with your church...

57 posted on 12/29/2008 1:12:49 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool; vladimir998; big'ol_freeper

“Her problem is the same as many churches, including yours...PRIVATE INTERPRETATION...God is the interpreter...Not your church...Not thru your church...”

Where did you get this idea from? Did God tell you?

“The scripture I read doesn’t come from your church...Never did...”

Of course it does. The Church established from among the contending versions of scripture what was “orthodox” and what wasn’t; what is in the canon and what isn’t. The “Old Testament”, like the New is a product of The Church and neither of the Jews nor of some American ecclesial group of dubious lineage. That’s not Eastern mysticism nor Roman legalism; its just an historical fact.

“Interesting statement when it’s clear that when people study the scriptures for themselves, even if they don’t get it all right, they leave your church in droves...”

Ummmmm, Orthodoxy, like Roman Catholicism, is growing. What is dying are the Western, post Enlightenment, ecclesial groups, at least as recognizable institutions, though its certainly true that in America anybody can open a “church”, bring in a few barrels of snakes and claim to preach God’s word. Most of the Christian world thinks that’s either pretty silly or a sort of dangerous Christian taliban.

“Oh, and btw, your church didn’t author the scriptures...God authored the scriptures and God said He would preserve them...”

Oh, gee, I, there you go again confusing Christianity with Mohammedanism. Its the Mohammedans who think God wrote the Koran, not Christians who think He wrote the Bible. Nevertheless you are correct that The Church did not author the Bible, but it certainly was the “editor” who put it all together to advance a very specific set of beliefs which are quite different from those you seem to adhere to.


58 posted on 12/29/2008 1:30:43 PM PST by Kolokotronis ( Christ is Born! Glorify Him!)
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