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To: D-fendr

I don’t believe that reductionist materialism is the only alternative to bizarre and unprovable mystical beliefs. You can go to Aristotle, Ayn Rand or a number of other good secular thinkers and find a different perspective.


15 posted on 01/16/2009 10:26:22 AM PST by Ed Hudgins (Rand fan)
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To: Ed Hudgins
thanks very much for your reply...

the only alternative to bizarre and unprovable mystical beliefs

You've substituted nonsense for the half of my dichotomy which was " religious worldview - whatever form that may take." By this I mean something that includes knowledge beyond the confines of reason/logic. Since pure reason logic is forever conditional, materialism and scientism are the result of those who limit themselves to it.

You can go to Aristotle, Ayn Rand or a number of other good secular thinkers and find a different perspective.

I would disagree with putting Rand in this category. She did not believe anything could or does transcend reason - I think a provably naive position.

Don't get me wrong on Rand. Her books forever change a great many college-age students for the better, myself included. Great stuff. However, we hopefully grow to include more knowledge or our reason/logic has nothing for its foundation.

17 posted on 01/16/2009 10:49:44 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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