[Responsibility2nd]

Abortion ping.

[joesbucks]

A Child born and tossed in a field is murder, not abortion.

[John Leland 1789]

While I am 100% opposed to murdering the unborn, and opposed to government either allowing it, endorsing it, or funding it, I think that this take off of Ezekiel is one of the most ridiculous manipulations of Scripture I have ever seen.

[a fool in paradise]

Obama says that “when life begins” is above his pay grade.

Can you be “a little bit pregnant”? There lies the answer.

[chuckles]

The Scripture is about Israel's sin. God is telling them they would be nothing without Him. The field they were tossed in was Egypt. God alone rescued them from their ordeal. A quick look at Mathew Henry's Commentaries would explain every word and verse.

Abortion is, OTOH as old as murder, and that started in the Garden. The trick to understanding God is to see how He describes things with His Word. Things He loves include children and wives. He uses references to children to describe His love for us. I don't think you can find one instance in the Bible that makes a child an unwanted thing. Most references seem to make a barren woman "cursed", and God "blesses" them with a miracle child. When Israel strayed from Him, He described them as "adulterous" or whores and prostitutes.

He is just describing His feelings towards the people He loves as they hurt Him. God has done everything to show His love for us, yet we reject Him at every turn. He gave His Son for us even before we have repented, yet we still fight His Will. I'm sure God could come up with some meaningful metaphors for us, but rejecting Him even after he took us in from a field, naked and alone, helpless as a baby, dumped off as trash in a field, is pretty powerful stuff. We were orphaned and He adopted us. We are helpless in this world, yet He provides all our needs. You would think some respect and gratitude would be in order, but our stiff necks seem to get in the way.

[the long march]

It is this type of misuse of Scripture that makes the anti-abortion folks seem so out there. Make your arguments based on life or whatever but do not misuse the word of God to please yourself

[count-your-change]

Passage has nothing to do with abortion. It is addressed to the city of Jerusalem and how God made it spiritually beautiful. Personifying Jerusalem as a woman or wife is done elsewhere in Scripture.

[Just mythoughts]

"Son of man, confront Jerusalem...

I can appreciate your attempt here but the Heavenly Father is not talking about a flesh being, but His most favorite piece of real estate upon this earth.

[A CA Guy]

Well, in the sense that Cain killed Able (sp?), you could call that a very later term abortion by the standards of a liberal.

[xzins]

This is about foundling Israel being accepted by God and covenanted with God.

The imagery, though, is of one who’s just been born, isn’t it? I believe the Spartans would dispose of unwanted babies that way.

It isn’t an abortion, but it is an attempted infanticide. It is also an allegory, and Ezekiel uses many, many allegories.

[Oratam]

"On the day you were born your cord was not cut, nor were you washed with water to make you clean . . . No one looked on you with pity or had compassion . . . Rather, you were thrown out into the open field, for on the day you were born you were despised."

Replace "open field" with "shelf" and this sounds a lot like a practice a certain State Senator now President voted in support of.

[TASMANIANRED]

It doesn’t describe abortion, It is infantacide.

A distinction without a difference.