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If You Are Contracepting, You Are Part of A Very Big Problem
Madrid Blogspot ^ | January 27, 2009 | Patrick Madrid

Posted on 01/27/2009 11:06:53 AM PST by NYer

Global aging, combined with plummeting birth rates, is a catastrophically dangerous menace that only a few people seem to be waking up to. You may not be familiar with terms like “global aging” and “demographic winter,” but you will be soon.

I've been giving public lectures on the problem of global aging for the past 7 years or so, and my audiences are always shocked and dumbfounded as I explain how the West's ever expanding population of old people (due, thank God, to the ever-improving capabilities of bio-medical science), while a good thing in itself, will soon become a prime target for the forced-euthanasia crowd as the decline in birth rates among women of child-bearing age throughout the West (as well as major non-Western countries like Japan and Russia) forces an ever-shrinking number of younger, working citizens to shoulder the economic burden of paying for the retirement benefits consumed by the ever-expanding population of retired, old folks.

This is a lethal combination that will, I am certain, begin playing itself out with horrifying new consequences within the next 10, 15, 20 years. Perhaps sooner. It's hard to predict. What we do know for sure, though, is that the West has been marinating for decades now in the bloody serum of legalized abortion, and it breathes the toxic atmosphere of ubiquitous pornography, consumerism, and the contraception mentality. What would have been unthinkable to Americans a mere 50 years ago (gay marriage, a billion-dollar abortion industry, the rise of euthanasia, etc.) has become commonplace and increasingly  unremarkable in this generation.

Where are we headed?

American economist Peter G. Peterson, in his book Gray Dawn: How the Coming Age Wave Will Transform America and the World (Random House, 1999), predicts: “Global aging will become the transcendent political and economic issue of the twenty-first century. I will argue [in this book] that — like it or not, and there's every reason to believe we won't like it — renegotiating the established social contract in reponse to global aging will soon dominate and daunt the public policy agendas or all the developed countries” (p. 5).

What Peterson means by “renegotiate the established social contract” is: You retired people, as well as all you who expect to retire in the next decade or two, don't expect that you'll be taken care of by the rest of us the way you now are or expect to be taken care of. Safety nets like Social Security and Medicare may have to be drastically downsized or even, if things get economically bad enough, eliminated. In other words, we may not be able to continue paying for the burdensome expenses old people impose on an ever-shrinking younger workforce (Thanks, contracepting couples! Thanks, abortion industry!). And what happens then? 

I've been saying for years now what is being reported yet again in this article. What is now known as the “right to die movement” is steadily morphing into what will soon become the “oblicagtion to die movement.” 

The politics of “young versus old” is rising, slowly but surely, and we will live to see its pernicious effects. Soon enough we will begin to see how the demographic winter results in an intergenerational struggle. The younger people, who have lived their entire lives learning from the media and our culture as a whole that other people are only useful or valuable insofar as they do one or more of a few things: give sexual pleasure, provide entertainment, make money, or produce some kind of product or service.

30+ years of legalized abortion has hardened millions of younger Americans into seeing unborn children as “parasites” who should be eliminated because they are inconvenient and unwanted.  50 years of the mainstreaming of pornography (thanks, Heff!) have educated a wide swath of Americans to look at others as objects for pleasure. And the aggressive cult of scientism has successfully swayed many people to look at unpleasant realities such as aging, pain, and lonliness as intolerable conditions that must be eliminated at all costs. 

So, barring some miracle (and while I do believe in miracles, I also believe in Divine Justice), I predict that the next step in the morbid evolution of the West's enmeshment in the culture of death will entail such horrors as forced euthansia and cloning human beings for body parts. This will begin to take shape as soon as enough people who have no belief in God and no regard for the value of human life begin to realize what “demographic winter” means for them financially.

With that in mind, please consider the chilling points made in this LifeSite article:

Celebrated columnist and pro-family leader Don Feder gave a jaw-dropping presentation on the coming 'Demographic Winter' at the Rose Dinner which closes the official March for Life festivities every year. Speaking to hundreds of attendees, Feder suggested that the demographic problem of worldwide declining birthrates "could result in the greatest crisis humanity will confront in this century" as "all over the world, children are disappearing."
 
"In the Western world, birthrates are falling and populations are aging," said Feder. "The consequences for your children and grandchildren could well be catastrophic."
 
Feder noted, "In 30 years, worldwide, birth rates have fallen by more than 50%. In 1979, the average woman on this planet had 6 children. Today, the average is 2.9 children, and falling."  He explained the situation noting, "demographers tell us that with a birthrate of 1.3, everything else being equal, a nation will lose half of its population every 45 years."
 
Beyond an inability to pay for pensions, it is likely that euthanasia will be one looked-to solution to the aging crisis, he said.

"Demographic Winter is the terminal stage in the suicide of the West - the culmination of a century of evil ideas and poisonous policies,'" he said.  Among them he listed:
 
"Abortion - As I mentioned a moment ago, worldwide, we're killing 42 million people a year. It's as if an invading army killed every man woman and child in Italy - then repeated the process every year.
 
"Contraception - For the first time in history, just under half the world's population of childbearing age uses some form of birth control. Some of us remember when births weren't controlled and pregnancies weren't planned. With all the wailing about man-made Global Warming, carbon footprints and the ozone layer, wouldn't it be ironic if what did us in wasn't the SUV but the IUD? . . . 
(read article)

 


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: alarmism; birthrate; chickenlittle; contraception; deathofthewest; demographics; doomandgloom; euthanasia; moralabsolutes; onozweregonnadie; panic; population; populationcontrol; prolife; scaremongering
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1 posted on 01/27/2009 11:06:54 AM PST by NYer
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To: NYer

I find that interesting considering the underclass is breeding like rabbits.


2 posted on 01/27/2009 11:08:27 AM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; wagglebee; ...

Pass it along.


3 posted on 01/27/2009 11:09:58 AM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: Niuhuru

I do not bring children into this world that I can not afford to care for.


4 posted on 01/27/2009 11:10:30 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: Niuhuru
I find that interesting considering the underclass is breeding like rabbits.


5 posted on 01/27/2009 11:10:34 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: NYer

in 1900, european people were 1 in 3 people in the world.

then the birth control pill was invented, and so was giving cash to other countries, while our women complain that they don’t have enough money to have another baby

now it is 1 in 7. in 90 years time it is predicted to be 1 in 15


6 posted on 01/27/2009 11:12:45 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: bronxboy

Exactly, the responsible are stuck working like dogs to pay for the irresponsible and their broods. They don’t get to have the children they’d like and have to put off having children.


7 posted on 01/27/2009 11:12:47 AM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: NYer

Some of us remember when births weren’t controlled and pregnancies weren’t planned.

Contraception has been around MUCH longer than you have been alive, unless you’re a Highlander...in which case your population decrease is occuring at a much faster rate than the West’s.


8 posted on 01/27/2009 11:13:27 AM PST by Troll_House_Cookies (Ironically, Chancellor Obama's first re-education camp will be in Alaska.)
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To: Niuhuru

True, I love kids and would have had more if I could have afforded to.


9 posted on 01/27/2009 11:15:05 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: NYer
Anyone who thinks human populations are on the decline is deluded. Anyone who thinks human population on the decline is, of necessity, a bad thing needs to rethink their assumptions.

For most of human history the human population of the Earth was less than a billion.

A decline from six billion, by the means of citizens exercising their ability to reproduce or not upon their own recognizance, is nothing to cry about.

10 posted on 01/27/2009 11:18:34 AM PST by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: NYer

Article summary - Have more babies so I can get Social Security and Medicare.

Rather than systematic euthanasia enforced on the old by the young, I see enslavement of the young and working in order to hold on to the dwindling dream of the Ponzi scheme.


11 posted on 01/27/2009 11:21:01 AM PST by Jack of all Trades
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To: Niuhuru

As a nation we are better off with the American underclass fecund than with the American underclass replaced by immigrant labor.


12 posted on 01/27/2009 11:23:44 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Patrick Madrid

Hi. Good article.


13 posted on 01/27/2009 11:24:34 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

Are you sure?


14 posted on 01/27/2009 11:25:17 AM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: Niuhuru
I find that interesting considering the underclass is breeding like rabbits.

How about some solid statistics and linkable references to back up your contention.

15 posted on 01/27/2009 11:25:37 AM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: allmendream

With all due respect, the real delusion is ignoring the fact that population is declining in the *West,* and this will soon begin wreaking serious social problems here.

Check out the data that’s widely available yet still largely ignored: http://www.demographicwinter.com/index.html

Watch the trailer to get a sense of what’s going on here.


16 posted on 01/27/2009 11:25:48 AM PST by Patrick Madrid (Thanks for your post)
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To: NYer

Contraceptives big problems? Not hardly, many use the small sized ones but won’t admit it.


17 posted on 01/27/2009 11:25:55 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

FReerider ping?


18 posted on 01/27/2009 11:26:14 AM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Niuhuru

And yet the population has surpassed 6+ billion people.


19 posted on 01/27/2009 11:26:26 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: NYer

I assume the rise in US fertility over the last 20 years or so is due to the fertility of immigrants..


20 posted on 01/27/2009 11:27:29 AM PST by Pessimist
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To: allmendream

Its a statistical fact that population decline follows a rise in affluence. Eventually the more populated countries will slow down and the ratios will be more static.


21 posted on 01/27/2009 11:29:05 AM PST by Troll_House_Cookies (Ironically, Chancellor Obama's first re-education camp will be in Alaska.)
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To: bronxboy
I do not bring children into this world that I can not afford to care for.

Children are a gift from God, not a financial burden. There are natural means of preventing birth. The rest is up to God.

22 posted on 01/27/2009 11:29:10 AM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: Jack of all Trades
Article summary - Have more babies so I can get Social Security and Medicare into which I paid my entire working life.

Just thought I'd add that little nugget you seem to have forgotten.

Please understand, I'm not saying social security and medicare are good things. I am saying that it is unfair to expect those who paid into those systems their whole lives to just walk away from that money.

Personally, I'd like to see the money that is SUPPOSED to be in those two programs for those who are still working given to those individuals to invest as they see fit. Of course, we'd have to cut other things to fund social security and medicare for those already on them. I imagine we could do so pretty easily if people of sound mind were given the chance. (Foreign aid, particularly to Islamic and communist nations comes to mind, as does welfare for those who can work but won't.)

23 posted on 01/27/2009 11:29:10 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Niuhuru

Yes. Isn’t it self-evident?


24 posted on 01/27/2009 11:29:11 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: NYer

From the Article:

“Some of us remember when births weren’t controlled and pregnancies weren’t planned.

...snip...

The decline of marriage and the rise of cohabitation. Not surprisingly, in relationships without commitment, people have fewer children. By the way, the left’s contribution to the coming population crisis is to push the one type of ‘marriage’ (and I use the term advisedly) that can’t conceivably produce children.

“But perhaps,” he concluded, “the most important factor is a culture (including Hollywood, the news media and academia) that tells people that children are a burden, rather than a joy; that pushes an ego-driven, live-for-the-moment ethic; a culture that tells us that contentment comes from careers, love, friendship, pets, possessions, travel, personal growth - anything and everything except family and children. It’s a culture that can look at Sarah Palin and her beautiful family and ask why she had to have 5 children and why she didn’t abort her child with Downs syndrome.”

Where I think the article needs clarification: it’s misleading to think that people did not plan children in the past; neglects discussion of purposeful planning to cooperate with God in the pro-creative act.

Where I agree: His analysis of the anti-family culture of death is completely accurate.


25 posted on 01/27/2009 11:29:19 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: Patrick Madrid

Anyone interested in examining the data should check out American economist Peter G. Peterson’s book “Gray Dawn” (Random House, 1999). He provides a wealth of statistics and facts to back up his thesis. It’s just one of a number of books and reports that give the hard numbers that tell the story:

http://www.amazon.com/Gray-Dawn-Peter-G-Peterson/dp/0812931955/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233084528&sr=1-2


26 posted on 01/27/2009 11:30:38 AM PST by Patrick Madrid (Thanks for your post)
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To: TruthWillWin

Funny there sure seem to be a lot of people here despite using contraceptives. They aren’t always perfect....many people will attest to.


27 posted on 01/27/2009 11:30:49 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Pessimist

“I assume the rise in US fertility over the last 20 years or so is due to the fertility of immigrants.”

You are correct and I’ve seen the graphs that demonstrate this.


28 posted on 01/27/2009 11:31:24 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: bronxboy
I do not bring children into this world that I can not afford to care for.

Americans and Europeans, although the richest people on earth, believe that they cannot afford children.

Muslims, on the other hand, plan to dominate the world and are having the children to do it.

29 posted on 01/27/2009 11:31:30 AM PST by iowamark
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To: Pessimist

Okay, so I’m 51 and intend to have no more children. But less children mean the burden on those alive now will increase as I age. So, what “cost cutting” measure will save taxpayer dollars when I’m 85?


30 posted on 01/27/2009 11:31:31 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: SumProVita

From the Article:

“Some of us remember when births weren’t controlled and pregnancies weren’t planned.

...snip...

Lots of guys with defective condoms would tend to strongly disagree with this statement.


31 posted on 01/27/2009 11:32:16 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: NYer

So, as people live longer and longer, the solution is to have more and more children, who will grow up and live and longer and longer, but that’s OK because they have more and more children, etc.

Somehow that doesn’t sound like a viable solution.


32 posted on 01/27/2009 11:32:53 AM PST by edweena
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To: Pessimist

Yes, I think that’s largely the case. US birth-rate numbers seem to be skewed higher because of the higher birth rates among our immigrants.


33 posted on 01/27/2009 11:32:59 AM PST by Patrick Madrid (Thanks for your post)
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To: Niuhuru
I find that interesting considering the underclass is breeding like rabbits.

Definition of "underclass:" Anyone less educated, less cultured, less affluent than I.

Regards,

34 posted on 01/27/2009 11:33:03 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: Troll_House_Cookies
Contraception has been around MUCH longer than you have been alive

It may have been around but ALL Christian Churches banned the used of artificial birth control. That was until the Lambeth Congress of 1930 when the Anglicans tossed that notion and began contracepting. Only the Catholic Church has maintained the ban on artificial birth control while approving natural family planning. Catholics who do not heed this teaching are in a state of sin.

35 posted on 01/27/2009 11:33:18 AM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: massgopguy

There is a flipside to this argument that nobody cares to mention either.

Today people are selfish for not wanting a lot of kids.

But back 100+ years ago when there was no state welfare and most people were agrarian, they had a lot of kids because they needed help, and they needed someone to take care of them when they got old, and having lots of kids ensured help, and care for themselves because many would survive to make it to adulthood and be able to care for the parents. It’s just as selfish a reason to have them if that’s a contributing factor in your reasons to have kids.


36 posted on 01/27/2009 11:35:20 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Your statement supports the following (though not in the totality of what I was attempting to state):

Some of us remember when births weren’t controlled and pregnancies weren’t planned.”

;-)


37 posted on 01/27/2009 11:36:56 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: Patrick Madrid; Pessimist

Immigration cannot be the only factor, because West Europe has immigration as well, especially from former colonies.

Another factor has got to be the higher level of religiosity in the US compared to Europe. Attendant with that are larger families, whether contraception is formally denounced as in Catholicism or simply practiced less.


38 posted on 01/27/2009 11:38:26 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: NYer

I can’t afford children. The state of California has me busy paying taxes to support the children of illegal aliens. I’d be mean spirited if I had kids of my own and forced the poor Mexican kids to have to go hungry. [/s]


39 posted on 01/27/2009 11:38:35 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: NYer

GOOD history which most are unaware of...


40 posted on 01/27/2009 11:38:52 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: Niuhuru; annalex
Annalex: As a nation we are better off with the American underclass fecund than with the American underclass replaced by immigrant labor.

Niuhuru: Are you sure?

Take a look at what's left of Europe. The Italians, French, British ... and others, reduced their birthrates through contraception. With a scaled down workforce, they looked to the Middle East for cheap laborers. The Muslims have settled in nicely, reproducing like rabbits. Do the math ... how long before they outnumber the natives?

Which brings us to the next phase of Europe. The following is a description (slightly modified) from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. www.frontline.org.za/books_videos/sti.htm

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness.

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs [Europe, Australia, USA and Japan]. Six percent of US prison inmates are Muslim. Like any other minority, they won’t integrate, but work to build their own separate community.

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. South Africa's Muslim population is 2%, but they control 35% of the businesses, a large percentage of the banks and have five Cabinet seats while Christians (77% of the population) have none.

They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves (along with threats for failure to comply).

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia; Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world, but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. (Ei: car-burnings in France last October.) Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats.

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning (India, Mindanao, Philippines).

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare [Indonesia].

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya (infidel tax). (Sudan, Kosovo, Lebanon and Egypt).

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide [Western Papua (New Guinea), Iran, Biafra, Turkey and North Nigeria].

100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" - House of Peace - as in Saudi Arabia, Libya and Yemen.

41 posted on 01/27/2009 11:40:26 AM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: Patrick Madrid

http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html

Is the U.S.A. not “the West”?

Log on and watch the U.S. population, as well as the world population, CLIMB.


42 posted on 01/27/2009 11:41:11 AM PST by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: MahatmaGandu

This “can’t afford children” is often an illusion, especially since you mention the tax rate that improves with more dependents. I am in California too and I see 6-8-kid families filling entire pews in church. They are single provider families that often struggle to pay bills, but they are not on welfare. It is a choice: you drive an older car, the kids learn to go without expensive clothes, take care of the little siblings, and share rooms, and are better off for it.


43 posted on 01/27/2009 11:43:37 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: massgopguy

“So, what ‘cost cutting’ measure will save taxpayer dollars when I’m 85?”

Simply put: Forced Euthanasia. That’s what will very likely come to the fore as a result of this global aging problem.

When you’re 85, and most likely long before then, you’ll simply be too much of a financial burden on those paying for your food, medicine, etc., and you’ll have to check out. That’s about as basic a “cost cutting measure” as you can get.


44 posted on 01/27/2009 11:44:09 AM PST by Patrick Madrid (Thanks for your post)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I was just making the point that the article statement tends to imply that today all we have are planned and wanted pregnancies. ;)


45 posted on 01/27/2009 11:45:02 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: MEGoody

We haven’t paid into anything. It’s an unsustainable, income tax based welfare program. Current tax revenue goes to pay current retirees. The rest get blown by the government and replaced by promises to tax future generations.

Being almost 45, I’ll never see a dime of it. Welcome to my boat - save or work until you die.

The money to pay projected retirees won’t come from trimming the budget here and there. The amounts are in the tens of Trillions of dollars, although in today’s economy that magnitude doesn’t seem to mean much anymore.


46 posted on 01/27/2009 11:51:49 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Bait and Switch - that's change ain't it?)
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To: NYer

We are lucky we have predominantly Christian Latino immigration, and not Muslim like in Europe, but as a nation we are best maintaining our own ethnic stock, just like for Mexico it is best to maintain Hispanic ethnic stock. It is not a matter of chauvinism or racism, — I am myself an immigrant in the US, — it is simply that nations have a collective talent that is reduced when nationalities mix indiscriminately. Some mixing is fine (just look at my children), mixing to the point of erasing the ethnic characteristic is not good.

But the point of the article is not even about that; having a healthy ratio of worker to elderly is a matter of economic survival. It is best to have indigenous population procreate in robust numbers, but failing that, immigration has to fill the need, at the cost of the loss of national identity.


47 posted on 01/27/2009 11:53:32 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

Everyone I know who “can’t afford more children” has a more expensive house than my family’s. It’s simply a matter of prioritizing.


48 posted on 01/27/2009 11:54:08 AM PST by Tax-chick (I will not be silenced.)
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To: NYer
Children are a gift from God, not a financial burden. There are natural means of preventing birth. The rest is up to God.

Unfortunately, that's no longer the case in today's nanny-state society.

When parents lose their rights to raise their children as they see fit (ie. to discipline them without fear of being accused of 'abuse' by overbearing government agencies with police powers), then they are merely the means by which government creates future taxpayers. When you couple that with 'deadbeat dad' child-support laws that are predicated on assumption that all non-custodial fathers are potential criminals, then it's not hard to imagine why more and more people are choosing to remain childless.

49 posted on 01/27/2009 11:55:28 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: Tax-chick

Yeah, exactly. And 1.2 kids in it, with $200 sneakers.


50 posted on 01/27/2009 11:56:25 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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