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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis
There is not a shred of palpable, substantial evidence to prove any of this

Well, faith is a theological virtue for a reason -- this reason precisely. However, you are not correct that there is not a shread of evidence. The Resurrection of Christ is one miracle that is attested to by hundreds of witnesses, and other miracles of Christ have witnesses as well. Obviously, there are skeptics denying all of that, but you cannot say that Christianity operates on faith alone. Our faith is faith in the evidence that the Church has preserved and passed on.

Next, there is no reason to only take our evidence and not take the Jewish evidence of the Old Testament miracles. I would admit that some of them look less forensically convincing and perhaps some of them are allegoric. But we cannot a priori dismiss their evidence while holding on to our evidence.

Further, the Old Testament miracle all point to the Chrisitan religion. For example Jesus saw in Jonas swallowed by a fish a prefigurement of Himself. The talking donkey has a spiritual meaning, as I struggled to show, that has to do with the inerranct character of true prophecy. So if God has a message to us, and miracles are His language, why not have faith in all of them?

After all, what is easier, for a donkey to talk or for a man to come from the dead?

54 posted on 02/17/2009 9:30:17 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis
Our faith is faith in the evidence that the Church has preserved and passed on

Then Hinduism and Zoroastrianism beat us hands down, Alex.

55 posted on 02/17/2009 10:16:38 PM PST by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: annalex; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis
Further, the Old Testament miracle all point to the Chrisitan religion. For example Jesus saw in Jonas swallowed by a fish a prefigurement of Himself

With that interpretation I agree. But that doesn't prove that Jonah story actually happened. :)

After all, what is easier, for a donkey to talk or for a man to come from the dead?

Frankly, Alex, dear friend, if it is faith it really doesn't matter, does it? If in your imagination you believe that you can actually fly who am I to say you can't fly in your imagination? :)

I just have a problem when someone says "as a matter of fact I can fly" and then not be able to prove it factually. He may have believed it, but he confused his faith with facts; he could not distinguish his imagination from the reality.

56 posted on 02/17/2009 10:25:38 PM PST by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: annalex; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis
The Resurrection of Christ is one miracle that is attested to by hundreds of witnesses

Who actually saw Christ resurrect? I am reminding you that even at the Pentecost, after he has eaten and spoken amongs them, some of his own eleven disciples actually doubted him (cf Math 28:17).

Obviously, there are skeptics denying all of that, but you cannot say that Christianity operates on faith alone

Obviously, but I am not the one denying it. I am simply saying that what I am being told by those who claim to "know" does not add up.

57 posted on 02/17/2009 10:48:36 PM PST by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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