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To: kindred; Lee N. Field; RJR_fan; XeniaSt
1. ... It happened as predicted on May 14, 1948 after about 2500 years.

There is no evidence to support the idea that secular Israel circa 1948 is the fulfillment of any Bible prophecy.

2. Israel shall be brought forth in one day, at once-ref Isa 66:8. Prophecy fulfilled-May 14, 1948. That’s 2 out of 2.

Sorry, Israel was not literally “brought forth in a day”. The political machinations that resulted in modern, secular Israel of 1948 started decades before, at least starting with the time of the Balfour Declaration in 1917.

3. Israel would be brought forth (or reborn) "out of the nations"-Ezek 38:8. ... This prophecy was perfectly fulfilled.

There was no fulfilled prophecy. This is pure speculation.

5. The Christian church at the time of the end would be lukewarm, neither cold nor hot for Jesus. Prophecy fulfilled. That’s 5 out of 5.

There is no such prophecy in the Bible.

6. The Bible gives us over 50 descriptions about the people at the time of the end.

And these have been true in one way or another for 2000 years.

7. There would be weapons that could destroy the world-Mk 13:20; Rev 6:8; Rev 9:18; Zech 14:8,12.

There are no prophecies about weapons that could destroy the entire world in the Bible. Just look at the verses carefully. None of the say anything about humanly created weapons.

And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect's sake, whom He chose, He shortened the days.

So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.

By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed--by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which came out of their mouths.

And in that day it shall be That living waters shall flow from Jerusalem, Half of them toward the eastern sea And half of them toward the western sea; In both summer and winter it shall occur. ... And this shall be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.

8. The Gospel must be published in all the world-Mk 13:10.

Paul confirmed this reality in the first century. Cf. Col. 1:6.

9. In the "latter days" when Israel was once again a nation, there would be a great military power to the extreme north of Israel in the land of Magog (which is modern-day Russia)-Ezek 38:2-4,8,15,16.

But there is no proof that modern, secular Israel is related at all to Biblical Israel, and the idea that Russia is Magog has no support at all from the Bible.

10. There would be a nation to the far east of Israel, to the end of the earth. This nation would have an army of 200 million.

200 million on horseback (you forgot that part), literally speaking (Rev. 9:16). Did you know there are only about 70 million horses on the entire planet? It's gonna be a few more decades, even centuries, before this can ever be “literally fulfilled” (which, of course, it won't because it is not an image to be taken “literally”).

11. There would be an economic alliance of the nations of the Old Roman Empire. It would have a military capability. This is an exact description of the European Economic Community today (the EEC), which has already adopted the one-currency system for many of their member nations.

Oh, you mean the so-called ten nation confederacy of 70s-era futurism? Just FYI, the EEC no longer exists. It's been replaced by the EU, which has how many nations these days, 27 I believe.

How old is this list?

These fraudulent lists are so easy to poke holes in. It's sad to see folks so easily duped by bad prophecy gurus.

55 posted on 02/21/2009 5:11:40 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: topcat54; kindred; Lee N. Field; RJR_fan
How old is this list?

These fraudulent lists are so easy to poke holes in. It's sad to see folks so easily duped by bad prophecy gurus.

Mat 24:42 "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming.

Mat 24:43 "But be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the thief was coming, he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be broken into.

Mat 24:44 "For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think {He will.}

Mat 24:45 "Who then is the faithful and sensible slave whom his master put in charge of his household to give them their food at the proper time?

Mat 24:46 "Blessed is that slave whom his master finds so doing when he comes.

Mat 24:47 "Truly I say to you that he will put him in charge of all his possessions.

Mat 24:48 "But if that evil slave says in his heart, 'My master is not coming for a long time,'

Mat 24:49 and begins to beat his fellow slaves and eat and drink with drunkards;

Mat 24:50 the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect {him} and at an hour which he does not know,

Mat 24:51 and will cut him in pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
58 posted on 02/21/2009 5:38:38 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: topcat54
And in that day it shall be That living waters shall flow from Jerusalem, Half of them toward the eastern sea And half of them toward the western sea; In both summer and winter it shall occur. ...

A perfect segue to John's depiction of New Jerusalem, in the new heavens and new earth:

Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 through the middle of the street of the city; also, on either side of the river, the tree of life with its twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

"Oh, that's a different river, different trees, different fruit for the healing of the nations. See, there's two sets...." Or something.

Did you know there are only about 70 million horses on the entire planet? It's gonna be a few more decades, even centuries, before this can ever be “literally fulfilled”

I dunno, 200,000,000 of these you could probably come up with in a decade:

China, buying up all the metals it can get. Coincidence? I think not.

60 posted on 02/21/2009 6:19:13 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("What is your only comfort, in life and death?" "That I an not my own, but belong, body and soul...")
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To: topcat54
[These fraudulent lists are so easy to poke holes in. It's sad to see folks so easily duped by bad prophecy gurus.]

I can only suggest that you are deceived. Amillenialism is a heresy supported by liberal Christendom who have rejected the Word of God and disdain the prophecy of the scriptures, much as the religious rulers of Christ Jesus did at His first advent so it is now that those who deny the literal meaning of Scripture and hide under religious ceremony and traditions and contradict the clear meaning of the Holy Bible will be caught unaware and left behind.
The Body of Christ (the bible believing Christian Church will be translated (raptured in one moment in the due time) and the rest of Christendom will attend their respective sectarian church's the next Sunday, or Saturday, as the case may be. This is the spewing out of the Laodecian lukewarm church warned of in the early chapters of revelation. Let God be true and every man a liar in order that thy saying may be true and thou may overcome when thou art judged.

144 posted on 03/04/2009 6:59:13 AM PST by kindred (Conservatives have 4 years to start a new conservative party or lose more elections.)
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