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1 posted on 02/28/2009 3:16:22 PM PST by NYer
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The Society of Saint Pius X whose ultratraditionalist bishops were recently rehabilitated by Pope Benedict XVI will not accept the reforms introduced by the Second Vatican Council

Is it possible to recognize a Council and not recognize its reforms. And do they mean all reforms or selective ones, like the liturgy?

2 posted on 02/28/2009 3:18:10 PM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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''The aftermath of the Council has been to empty seminaries, nunneries and churches. Thousands of priests have left their orders and millions of faithful have stopped being practicing Catholics and have joined sects''

Who in the Vatican could honestly disagree?
3 posted on 02/28/2009 3:21:10 PM PST by irishjuggler
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Sounds to me like someone, either on the far right or far left, trying to sabotage the reconciliation.

The “reforms” that came after the council were often unwise and badly carried out. Benedict himself has said as much. He has certainly said that about the liturgical reforms.

Now, if the SSPX gets more specific and specifies certain documents of Vatican II, that would be a problem. But een there, Cardinal Ratzinger repeatedly pointed out that, like any document, the Vatican II documents have been intepreted through two different lenses: the lens of continuity, the lens of rupture. I could readily envision an effort to get the SSPX to accept Vatican II documents premised on the former. Whether they will or not, . . .

Another possible explanation for this particular news item is that Fellay is doing some public negotiating, jockeying for position in the “discussions.”


7 posted on 02/28/2009 3:31:51 PM PST by Houghton M.
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9 posted on 02/28/2009 4:12:42 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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Ask all Bishops if they are in total accord with the Council of Trent. When they ALL send their letter of “total support and agreement,” then this story can become an issue.

Francis


10 posted on 02/28/2009 4:13:17 PM PST by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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bumpus ad summum


19 posted on 02/28/2009 7:59:53 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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