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1 posted on 03/12/2009 6:09:59 AM PDT by NYer
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“It’s a perfectly legitimate discussion,” he said during a talk radio program in Albany hosted by Fred Dicker. “I think it has to be looked at.”

Perhaps he did not follow the Vatican Synod of October 2005 - Catholic bishops reaffirm priestly celibacy

2 posted on 03/12/2009 6:12:07 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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“I’m not so sure it wouldn’t be a good idea to decide (whether priests can be married) on the basis of geography and culture, not to make an across–the–board determination,” the cardinal said. He noted that priests in the Eastern Catholic churches –– such as the Romanian, Maronite or Melkite churches –– are allowed to be married with “no problem at all.”

Mar Nasrallah Peter Cardinal Sfeir, Patriarch of the Maronite Catholic Church, specifically addressed the topic of married priests at the Vatican Synod.

Sfeir warned the 245 bishops attending the synod's eighth daily session that marriage causes "just as many problems as it resolves," according to the text released by the Vatican. A married priest must care for his wife and children as well as look after his flock, said Sfeir. A bishop also has more difficulty in relocating a married priest than an unmarried one, the patriarch said. The cardinal, like many prelates at the synod, linked the lack of priestly vocations to the question of celibacy. "Celibacy is the most precious jewel in the treasure of the Catholic Church. But how do you conserve it in an atmosphere full of eroticism: newspapers, internet, advertising posters, shows, all shameless and always wounding the virtue of chastity," he said.
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5 posted on 03/12/2009 6:17:49 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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Sex is a snare, isn’t it? I can’t help but think that sex was a pretty strong thought in the back of Martin Luther’s mind too. Some day all Christians will be united, but it’ll be little more than a social club if they keep forsaking doctrine a paragraph at a time.


6 posted on 03/12/2009 6:18:46 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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It seems in every area that many conservatives hold dear there is no escape. Not in the church, the state, the country, the world. Conservatives are being squeezed in every direction, trying to change them, conform them, and silence them. The pressure is building under the surface, like a huge magma chamber. The frustration I feel is becoming overwhelming.There is no place in this country it would seem for MY viewpoint to be accepted. My question is, are we deluding ourselves on this website? Are we really the majority? Are there enough of us to effect any change? If so, when? How? At what cost? and Why hasn’t it made a difference? Where is the outrage, besides on a few websites and conservative bloggers? Is there any hope of turning around this ship, or is it truly too late? You know, it would not have mattered if the rudder of the Titanic could reverse the direction of the ship once it struck the iceberg; it was still going to sink no matter the direction it was pointed. I guess my question is, have we already struck the iceberg?


7 posted on 03/12/2009 6:19:01 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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Married priests are a reality if you happen to be a married protestant minister who converts and is subsequently ordained a Catholic priest.


8 posted on 03/12/2009 6:19:47 AM PDT by Ozone34 ("There are only two philosophies: Thomism and bullshitism!" -Leon Bloy)
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Up until 1139 Catholic Priest COULD marry.

Celibacy is not Cannon from the lips of Christ and can be changed.

accepting married priest might bring more priests into the fold and more mentally stable priests at that.

10 posted on 03/12/2009 6:23:56 AM PDT by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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He also discussed various New York legislative issues as well as the broader picture of the church’s public policy on topics such as same–sex marriage and access to abortion for minors.

I wonder what he had to say about these other topics, too.

13 posted on 03/12/2009 6:37:18 AM PDT by Heartland Mom ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." - Ronald Reagan)
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Egan needs to be quiet and fade away.


21 posted on 03/12/2009 6:47:32 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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Some married clergymen from other Christian faiths who have joined the Catholic Church have later been ordained as Catholic priests.

In 1980 the Vatican approved special provisions under which former Episcopal priests who had become Catholics could apply for ordination in the Catholic priesthood. Since then several dozen married former Episcopal priests have become Catholic priests. In addition, a few married former Methodist and Lutheran ministers have been ordained Catholic priests.

Frederick J. Luhmann, an author and researcher who has kept track of the ordinations of married men for more than a decade, told Catholic News Service March 11 he counted 93 former Episcopal, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Methodist and Baptist clergymen among U.S. Catholic priests currently serving the church.

Catholic Caucus?

22 posted on 03/12/2009 6:48:36 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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While I certainly see the value of a celibate priesthood. one must wonder if the hypocrisy and dishonesty is worth the continued pretense that we have celibate priests.

Look at some of the other reports, such as the one below on Austria, and the almost daily news items about priests stealing money to support their girlfriends and lavish lifestyles.

Most priests today probably oppose marriage, unless Gay marriages were allowed, then there would be great support, though allowing heterosexual married priests in some rectories would stop some activity.

Were not the priests who choose marriage and left the more honest ones. These were the committed, and no one ever asked why they choose to leave - it was not always marriage, I think, but when they did get married they were honest about it. Had they been allowed to continue in some capacity things might have been quite different. We probably would not have half the problems we have today. There is something to be said for honesty.

24 posted on 03/12/2009 6:59:02 AM PDT by VidMihi ("In fide, unitas; in dubiis, libertas; in omnibus, caritas.")
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Another one who’s been a great disappointment. Can’t retire fast enough.


27 posted on 03/12/2009 7:15:39 AM PDT by Antoninus (Every time Obama speaks, I buy more silver.)
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