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To: sr4402
"That is what Ephesians 2:1 says "And you were dead in your trespasses and sins", Yes Now it is your turn. Do you believe that man, apart from God does "not seek for God"?"
 
Then I would ask you to turn your attention to the account of Cornelius.
 
"At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion of what was known as the Italian Cohort, a devout man who feared God with all his household, gave alms generously to the people, and prayed continually to God.
 
About the ninth hour of the day he saw clearly in a vision an angel of God come in and say to him, "Cornelius." And he stared at him in terror and said, "What is it, Lord?" And he said to him, "Your prayers and your alms have ascended as a memorial before God. And now send men to Joppa and bring one Simon who is called Peter. He is lodging with one Simon, a tanner, whose house is by the sea." When the angel who spoke to him had departed, he called two of his servants and a devout soldier from among those who attended him, and having related everything to them, he sent them to Joppa."
 
 
Now, this occured before Cornelius had ever heard the Gospel and definitely before he had received the Spirit.
 
Does that sound like someone who could be described as : “Not seeking God, Not doing any Good in God’s sight and being thoroughly and truly Dead in Trespasses and Sin”?
 
 
 

29 posted on 03/18/2009 12:32:33 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Superb Question: Now, this occured before Cornelius had ever heard the Gospel and definitely before he had received the Spirit.

Exactly, if Cornelius is clearly seeking God but the Scriptures say "No one seeks for God", what then has been happening??

Non-Reformed Doctrine would say that God couldn't hear him because he was not in Christ, nor had the Holy Spirit inside him.

Therefore there is only one conclusion: God has been at work in Cornelius's life before His recieving Christ and the Holy Spirit.

Thus proving what Christ said "No one comes unto me unless the Father draws him"

For if someone is clearly seeking God and God says they man doesn't do that, then we need to pay attention and give them the Gospel.

Now what about "No one seeks for God" on His own? Do you believe that now?

30 posted on 03/18/2009 1:01:16 PM PDT by sr4402
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