Posted on 03/18/2009 10:27:27 PM PDT by Star Traveler
Clarence Larkin was one of the finest theologians of the last century. He wrote right around the time of World War One. People thought he was nuts because he stated that a regathering of Israel would take place in actual fashion.
Hal Lindsey discredited himself by making so many specific predictions in his early years. John Walvoord, Dwight Pentecost, Charles Ryrie, and M.R. Dehaan are some of the traditional scholars who believed in an immediate rapture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlz79qOLnss&feature=related
This video is a favorite of mine.
Dallas Seminary is the school that produced most of the greats, and I didn’t mean to leave out Merrill Unger.
Thank you for posting this tonight. I am a pre-tribulation believer. To me it just makes sense. Our generation is blessed because we will never die and I live my life daily expecting that “today is the day”. Dr. David Jeremiah presently has a book out, “What in the World is Going On?” that gives a good description of the rapture and the tribulation. One of the things that he comments on is how few ministers will preach on the end times. There will be a lot of people who attend church that are going to be surprised on the day of the rapture. Thank you again.
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His charts are quite awesome. “Dispensational Truth” is an excellent book, comparable to the Schofield Bible and Pentecost’s “Things to Come” in importance to the development of pre-trib theology.
I lost my copy of “The Spirit World.” I still have all Larkin’s others though.
Well, you’re welcome. I just thought that people should not be “hammered” for such a basic doctrine, as the Rapture, that we all know comes from the Bible... :-)
I hope that we can add good information, studies, verses, websites and so on to this thread (and other threads later on), in regards to the Rapture. It’s a very relevant thing these days.
I enjoy threads of this nature for reading.
I am will not chime in as to respect to the caucus and my own journey in learning and absorbing the teachings of the RC Church.
(I dont want to confuse myself or debate fellow Christians in these times where we all need to respect and stick together)
The one comment I will make as a student of the theology road is that personally at this time in my sojourney in my faith in subject matter such as this thread my opinion is:
I am just doing my best to keep the oil Lamp at the Door burning bright for when the BridesGroom arrives.
I enjoy David Jeremiah’s writings also. LaHaye was good at one time but he became very commericial and I still remember buying a repackaged version of “No Fear of the Storm” which was placed and sold as a new book. I was livid.
I also thought they dragged out the “Left Behind” series far too long. It could have been wrapped up in three books. Clyde Emmitt Douglas had one single novel on the Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming that not only finished up in one large work, but contained Scriptural references in the margins.
I had dinner with a believer tonight, a dear friend, and he is torn by whether to store up water and supplies. He believes in the pre-trib theology, but often wanders over to mid-trib, and when he watches too much news, he becomes almost post-trib. I told him the Holy Ghost would make known what to do if the Lord tarries.
You said — “I enjoy threads of this nature for reading.”
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Hopefully, we can continue with such threads on the Rapture, as long as we don’t run out of things to say... :-)
I’ll have them tagged, using the keyword, “rapturecaucus”, which should make them easy to find later on. This is the only one, right now, but hopefully the start of a continuing set of them...
I appreciate you doing this. So far, I’ve had only a few conversations with Rapture believing freepers along the back channels, and none for a very long time.
Usually the term, Rapture invites attacks around here often reserved for Democrats and Rino’s.
LOL... oh yeah...
Well, the article did mention those positions. And I realize that there are some differences. But, as the article said, this shouldn’t be cause for “separation” from other believers. I think that we can keep it civil and orderly.
I personally see it as pre-trib, but I do understand that others may have a different understanding and I would like to get down to the “crux of the matter” as to what causes some to think one way versus another, and see what we come up with.
As long as the Rapture is not denigrated in and of itself and we are all respectful, that should be okay (I hope... :-) ... ) ...
Pre-wrath people represent a very recent philosophy. The earliest writings of Rosenthal espousing this point of view that I can find come from about 1982.
Dr. Renald Showers has written an excellent refutation of this philosophy. That came after Rosenthal spent so much time bashing the Rapture.
Many post trib people get quite angry about the pre-trib Rapture, and seem determined to suffer, accusing the other side of “escapism.” The scholar you posted, Dr. Reagan, is a proponent of the pre-trib philosophy.
Most of the pastors I know are amillennial. They just figure God will handle things and they don’t need to worry about it. They also don’t believe in literal prophecy fulfillment, aside from the Second Coming itself.
Thank you Star Traveler and Moderator for this effort. And forgive me Star Traveler for asking if you are “worried” I know you are not.
Dr. Jeremiah was in Atlanta last year and several of our church members went to the meeting. He brought his entire church choir. My wife and I spoke with several of the women from the choir and all they could talk about was how great the food was in Georgia. What a great message and what wonderful singing. If you ever have the chance to see him in person, go. He preaches the Wordand he pulls no punches.
I agree on the “Left Behind” series. Should have been no more than 3 books.
I read Rosenthal’s book in the early 80’s right after I left the amill teachings. It had me convinced for a period of time. My biggest revelation came when I asked the Holy Spirit for the truth. What I am loosing now is my approval needs of trying to convince everyone that I am right and needing them to agree with me.
You know, if I could use one word with regards to the rapture, that word would be “antisipation” !
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