If Star Traveler has another meaning for the term, then he should let me know. Likewise, if he wishes to use a different term such as "Pretrib/Midtrib Caucus" or "Prewrath Caucus."
If he wishes to include Christians being taken up after the end times, then might change it to "Pre/Mid/Posttrib Caucus." Likewise for "dispensationalism" "millenarianism" and so forth.
Hello Religion Moderator, and good morning...
You were saying — The term “Rapture” as I am moderating this thread is pre-trib + mid-trib or pre-wrath. That comes from the definition (Merrian-Webster): “the final assumption of Christians into heaven during the end-time according to Christian theology.
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Yes, I believe that fits pretty well what I was talking about. I appreciate your attention to this detail on the matter. It does take a bit of getting used to, in order to participate in the right way here, but it’s something that is enjoyable for those who do believe in the Rapture. Thanks...
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And then you said — If Star Traveler has another meaning for the term, then he should let me know. Likewise, if he wishes to use a different term such as “Pretrib/Midtrib Caucus” or “Prewrath Caucus.”
If he wishes to include Christians being taken up after the end times, then might change it to “Pre/Mid/Posttrib Caucus.” Likewise for “dispensationalism” “millenarianism” and so forth.
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No different meaning for the term. Thank you...
And for a discussion on other matters, that can be taken up on another thread. There’s room for discussion elsewhere on other issues.
I trust this won’t be a headache for anyone... :-)
THE CASE FOR RAPTURE ON A JEWISH FEAST DAY
http://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/rapture-on-a-jewish-feast-day/
Some Prophecy Teachers teach that the Feast of Trumpets will be the future Jewish feast that the Church is raptured on. Others teach that the Church is not bound by the Jewish festivals. Why would God(Jesus)have all the types and shadows of Rapture,Resurection,and Judgement evident in a couple of jewish feast days and then Rapture the Church any old day?
Q. Some Prophecy Teachers today teach that the Feast of Trumpets will be the future Jewish feast that the Church is raptured on.They also hold to the view of imminency. 2 Prophecy Teachers I know teach that the Church is not bound by the Jewish festivals meaning Christ could come on any old day.
Why would God(Jesus)have all the types and shadows of Rapture,Resurection,and Judgement evident in a couple of jewish feast days and then Rapture the Church any old day?
A. The most direct answer to your question is that the timing of the Rapture is a secret. Therefore it can’t be connected to any other specific event of the End Times, whether Jewish or Gentile.
Personally I think it’s a number specific event rather than a date specific one. What I mean by that is according to Romans 11:25 there seems to be a predetermined number of believers for the Church and when that number is reached the age of the Church is over. The Greek word translated fullness, or full number, comes from a nautical term meaning the size of crew necessary for a ship to sail. Before it was reached the ship couldn’t sail, and any extra was surplus. The one translated “come in” means to arrive at a destination. So by his choice of words, I believe Paul was talking about the Rapture.
No one knows what that number is, or how close we are to reaching it, but theoretically the very next person who gives his or her heart to the Lord could complete the church’s membership. If so, the rapture would occur. Therefore, it could happen any day.
All of the Seven Levitical Feasts are thought to have both a historical and a prophetic fulfillment. Passover, Unleavened Bread and First Fruits were all fulfilled in the Lord’s 1st coming. I believe The Feast of Trumpets will be fulfilled by the 2nd Coming, Tabernacles by the Millennium, and Yom Kippur by the Great White Throne judgment.
That leaves Pentecost. Some believe it was fulfilled in the birth of the Church, and some see and End Times fulfillment yet to come. (If the Rapture does take place on a Jewish Feast day, Pentecost is a much more likely candidate than Trumpets.) But to tie the Rapture to any known event is to destroy the Doctrine of Imminence, something many in the Church hold dear to their hearts.