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To: Colofornian; greyfoxx39; metmom; Tennessee Nana; Godzilla; Elsie
Did they dispel these "rumors."

1. Changes. In writing the Book of Mormon, Smith claimed it was inspired of God, yet it has been edited, changed, and re-edited many times (2,000 times in 131 years) to try and take out all contradictions in the various writings of Smith.

2. Language. Smith claims the plates were in Reformed Egyptian characters, written by Mormon, a Nephite general and buried in Palmyra, New York. There is no evidence of this language through any history. ( In Mormon 9:32, 34, it states that the language was "reformed Egyptian" and that no other people knew their language.)

3. The Urim and Thumin. (Numbers 27:21 & I Samuel 28:6) were mentioned as a means of ascertaining God's will in judicial matters, not to translate plates.

4. Archaeology. The Book of Mormons claims of vast civilizations, animals, etc., there cannot one shred of evidence be found to substantiate its claim. When people dig for worms in the Holy Land, they make discoveries The Bible has been proven by archaeology, cities, places, coins, clothing, swords, etc., have been found, but not one single place mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been identified. There are still people in the LDS Church who believe that archaeology has proven, at least to a degree, the Book of Mormon. Some missionaries are still using slide presentations of ruins from Mexico and South America, implying that they prove the Book of Mormon. But they are from an entirely different time period. They are ruins of idol worshipers who offered human sacrifices.

5. Botany. a 1 Ne. 17:5 talks about fruit and wild honey being products of Sinai desert (called Bountiful). Not possible.... b Wheat, barley, olives, etc., are mentioned, but none of these were in the Americas at that time. c North America had no cows, asses, horses, oxen, etc. Europeans brought them hundreds and hundreds of years later. North America had no lions, leopards, nor sheep at that time. Horses, asses, and elephants were not here either. d Honey bees were brought here by Europeans much later. e Ether 9:18, 19, lists domestic cattle, cows and oxen as separate species! They did not even exist in the Americas at that time. f Ether 9:30-34 talks about poisonous snakes driving sheep to the south. The Book of Mormon tells that the people ate the snake-killed animals, all of them! (v. 34). Jewish people could not have eaten animals that were killed that way, since Mosaic law forbids it! g Ne. 20:16 and 21:12 talk about lions as "beasts of the forests." Lions do not live in forests or jungles, and they never lived in the Americas. No silk and wool clothing (nor moths) existed, as 1 Ne. 13:7; Alma 4:6; Ether 9:17 and 10:24 indicate, at that time either. Butter is also mentioned, but it could not possibly exist, since no milk-producing animals were found in the Americas at that time.

6. Plagiarism. from the King James Bible: a. A comparison of the following shows that Joseph Smith made free use of his Bible to supplement the alleged revelation of the golden plates. · Moroni 10 with I Corinthians 12:1-11 · Nephi 14 with Isaiah 4 · II Nephi 12 with Isaiah 2 · Mosiah 14 with Isaiah 53 · III Nephi 13:1-18 with Matthew 6:1-23 b. The Mormons claim that when Christ allegedly appeared on the American continent after His resurrection and preached to the Nephites he quite naturally used the same language as recorded in the Bible. c. They also maintain that when Nephi came to America he brought copies of the Hebrew scriptures, which account for quotations from the Old Testament. ( It is quite miraculous how these plates on which the scriptures were inscribed, somehow or another, under translation, came out in perfect King James English without variation approximately 1,000 years before the 1611 KJV was written.)

I also like how Mormons went from this........

...........to this fantasy in the "looks" department.................

Why not go all the way and claim this is what he looked like?


14 posted on 03/21/2009 3:42:33 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Is that first pic really JS? I do not know that I have ever seen it (which surprises me).


16 posted on 03/21/2009 8:19:52 AM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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