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Notre Dame, "the bishops," and "Catholic schools" (who has what authority)
OSV ^ | March 26, 2009 | Monsignor Owen F. Campion

Posted on 03/27/2009 10:02:50 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 03/27/2009 10:02:51 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

An excellent clarification of how the universities are run.


2 posted on 03/27/2009 10:03:38 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

This among many other reasons is why the Catholic Church is losing all credibility!


3 posted on 03/27/2009 10:06:56 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: CletusVanDamme

Thought this might be of interest to you.


4 posted on 03/27/2009 10:09:17 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer
“Protesting decisions at universities such as this action at Notre Dame by appealing to bishops, rather than to those who actually operate these schools, overlooks fact.”

Got it, Mnsr!

Lets get back to attacking the ND board and the way word “religious” who made this decision!

(However, I would think that discipline towards the Priest who made this decisions is still allowed, is it not? If this Priest opened an abortion clinic, on campus, would the Church have the authority to defrock and excommunicate this Priest?)

5 posted on 03/27/2009 10:09:21 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: NYer

Just like all “foundations” -— these charitable boards ALWAYS drift to the left.


6 posted on 03/27/2009 10:10:41 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Ev Reeman
This among many other reasons is why the Catholic Church is losing all credibility!

What credibility has the Church lost? If anything, our bishops are the only voices in America speaking out against fetal stem cells and gay marriage.

7 posted on 03/27/2009 10:11:06 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: Ev Reeman

How does that follow? And the ones losing credibility are the ones using the word Catholic in their institution’s name while spitting in the face of what the Catholic Church teaches. They in short are liars and scoundrels and thieves.


8 posted on 03/27/2009 10:12:13 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: NYer

Hesburgh er Jenkins rather (Freudian slip) has the power and he IS a Priest.


9 posted on 03/27/2009 10:12:19 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: NYer

I was refrerring to the pedophile scandals as well as the Catholic Church refusing to excommunicate prominent political leaders who support unlimited abortions!


10 posted on 03/27/2009 10:14:14 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Kansas58

The priests are still answerable to their ordinary, either the local bishop or one who oversees the fraternity, correct. In the Notre Dame case, that was one Fr. Jenkins. It is not terribly clear who is his ordinary, probably someone in the Holy Cross order, but that is where the lay Catholic pressure should be applied.


11 posted on 03/27/2009 10:16:45 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: NYer

Rush talking about “touch down Jesus” on the ND field right now!


12 posted on 03/27/2009 10:17:26 AM PDT by Kansas58
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There is utterly no comparison between them and the local parochial school.
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Yes, there is a comparison.

My daughter teaches math in a Texas Catholic elementary school. Nearly every one of the teachers and the principal voted for Obama. All classes were suspended so that the students could assemble to witness Obama’s inauguration oath.

13 posted on 03/27/2009 10:22:58 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Kansas58

I would agree to a compromise where he is allowed to speak but not given an honorary degree. That’s what bother’s me the most. He should not be honored at any Catholic affiliated institution. Benedict we need you now!!!


14 posted on 03/27/2009 10:24:02 AM PDT by crymeariver (Good news...in a way)
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To: Ev Reeman
Ev
You need to shut up, quit posting, and educate yourself.
You are making very ignorant comments here.

First, there was no real “pedophile scandal” in the Church.

Yes, it was illegal and it was immoral and it was a tragedy, but it was a HOMOSEXUAL PREDATOR problem in the Church that the Church did not understand, and dealt with very poorly. (JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER INSTITUTION IN AMERICA!)

Less than 5% of the total Priesthood, in America was involved.

In nearly EVERY case, the Priests were inappropriately involved with POST PUBERTY MALES!

It is not pedophilia, unless it is pre-puberty.

Liberalism believes in “rehabilitation” and “counseling” and the Church, itself, believes in true redemption.

Nobody realized soon enough that sexual predators can NOT be “rehabilitated” -— and the Catholic Church is now paying the price.

Again, your anti-Catholic bigotry, and your own arrogance, are showing through on this thread.

15 posted on 03/27/2009 10:25:01 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Ev Reeman

One shouldn’t be concerned if they are losing credibility with simpletons.


16 posted on 03/27/2009 10:25:56 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Ev Reeman

I was refrerring to the pedophile scandals as well as the Catholic Church refusing to excommunicate prominent political leaders who support unlimited abortions!

Just a correction...the priests caught up on this scandal were not pedophiles but homosexuals attracted to pubescent boys.


17 posted on 03/27/2009 10:29:13 AM PDT by crymeariver (Good news...in a way)
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Suprised that Notre Dame has not backed down over this issue of inviting President Obama, WHY?

Could it be because of fear of ACORN?


18 posted on 03/27/2009 10:29:48 AM PDT by Biggirl (GO UCONN!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: crymeariver
I think the Board, at ND, should demand to see Obama’s Birth Records and Citizenship Records, before offering a degree!
19 posted on 03/27/2009 10:30:03 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: wintertime
No there isn't. The point that sailed over your head is that a diocese has authority over a parochial elementary school which it runs. A diocese does not have authority over an independently run university masquerading as a Catholic institution.

Incidentally, did your daughter complain to the principal, the bishop and boycott the assembly?

20 posted on 03/27/2009 10:30:48 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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