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Head of Holy Cross Order on Sanctions against Notre Dame Pres., "That's Rather Extreme"
LifeSiteNews.com -- Your Life, Family and Culture Outpost ^ | April 2, 2009 | By Hilary White

Posted on 04/02/2009 4:49:22 PM PDT by topher

Thursday April 2, 2009


Exclusive Interview: Head of Holy Cross Order on Sanctions against Notre Dame Pres., "That's Rather Extreme"

When asked, "Should Obama have been invited?" Cleary responded, "I don't know what to say about that."

By Hilary White

ROME, April 2, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The head of the religious order to which the president of the University of Notre Dame, Fr. John Jenkins, belongs told LifeSiteNews.com in an exclusive interview today that the order has no plans to impose any disciplinary measures over the recent scandal.

The university, among the most important Catholic institutions of higher learning in the English speaking world, has caused dismay among Catholics and has raised the ire of many US bishops by its decision to invite President Obama to give the commencement address and to award him with an honorary law degree.

Critics have said that the invitation clearly violates a 2004 statement from the US Catholic bishops that specifies that no Catholic institution in the US should give prominent pro-abortion individuals "awards, honors or platforms which would suggest support for their actions." Obama has been described by many pro-life advocates as the most pro-abortion president in US history.

Earlier this week prominent Notre Dame Law Professor Charles Rice wrote that Fr. Jenkins should resign over the scandal. "It implies no personal animosity to suggest that Fr. Jenkins and the other Fellows and Trustees responsible for this fiasco should resign or be removed," he said.

Fr. Hugh Cleary, the Superior General of the Congregation of the Holy Cross, spoke to LSN today in Rome. When asked if it were possible to levy any formal canonical sanctions against Fr. John Jenkins, Notre Dame's president, or any of the five members of the university's board that belong to the order, Fr. Cleary responded, "I really don't know."

"We haven't looked into it. It doesn't seem like it's the proper route to go," he said. "Not now and maybe never." He added that it "would be up to the bishops to do that. … For myself I feel that's rather extreme. I hope they [the bishops] don't do that."

Fr. Cleary, who confirmed that he had known about the invitation before it was made public by the White House, also told LSN that he believed the university's decision to invite President Obama could not be rescinded. "I don't think you can dis-invite the president of the United States," he said.

"The life issues are the most important issues, but there is a certain etiquette to be followed."

On the question of whether Obama should have been invited to Notre Dame in the first place, he said, "I don't know what to say about that."

In an open letter to President Obama recently published in America magazine, Fr. Cleary invited the president to use his appearance at Notre Dame as a "teachable moment" to reconsider his position on abortion.

He wrote, "Through this open letter, I would like to take advantage of your appearance at Notre Dame to ask you to rethink, through prayerful wrestling with your own conscience, your stated positions on the vital 'life issues' of our day, particularly in regard to abortion, embryonic stem cell research and your position on the Freedom of Choice Act before Congress."

Asked by LSN whether he thought it likely that an appearance at Notre Dame would change Obama's mind on abortion, Fr. Cleary admitted it is unlikely.

While his letter in America magazine was warm in its overall praise of President Obama, Fr. Cleary wrote, "I am embarrassed to admit that I could not participate in the last election cycle.  I wanted to vote for you, but I just could not because of your position on abortion."

He wrote that he is "finding it more and more difficult to vote for the candidates of our major political parties."

"My friends tell me to vote by all means, vote for the lesser of the evils. Unfortunately today's evils seem so much larger than my conscience can bear." Among these Fr. Cleary listed, "abortion, the death penalty, euthanasia, immigration, the economy, and housing for the poor, gun control, health care for the uninsured, the environment, and war for oil or weapons of mass destruction."

In his interview with LSN Fr. Cleary also said that he objected to the "kind of expressions" being used to describe the Notre Dame case by some pro-life Catholics in the US, saying he was "surprised" at the level of anger.

He said that he believes that "sometimes the righteous anger is replaced with self righteous anger," but wanted to be clear he was not referring to the bishops who had spoken against Obama's appearance. He agreed, however, that such a reaction could be understandable in light of the magnitude of the evil of abortion.

Fifteen US bishops, including two cardinals and the archbishops of New York, Chicago and Oklahoma City, have condemned the decision to invite Obama. Bishop Thomas Olmsted of the Phoenix diocese said in a letter to the university that the honour is "a public act of disobedience to the Bishops of the United States."

A petition launched by the Cardinal Newman Society in protest against the invitation has been signed by more than 230,000 individuals. (To sign the petition, go to: http://www.notredamescandal.com)

Read related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:

ND President's Religious Superior Says Jenkins "Fulfilling Responsibilities" of President
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/mar/09032708.html

Bishop Olmsted: Notre Dame's Obama Honour "Public Act of Disobedience to U.S. Bishops"

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/mar/09032605.html

Four More Bishops Make Thirteen Opposed to Notre Dame Obama Invitation
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/apr/09040106.html

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From the article:

On the question of whether Obama should have been invited to Notre Dame in the first place, he [Fr. Hugh Cleary] said, "I don't know what to say about that."

Fr. Hugh Cleary is the Superior General of the Congregation of the Holy Cross.

This priest would be wise to read:

Gospel of Matthew 25:14-30

This is the parable of the Talents...

1 posted on 04/02/2009 4:49:23 PM PDT by topher
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To: topher
"The life issues are the most important issues, but there is a certain etiquette to be followed."

so its OK to hang out with baby killers because that is the polite thing to do? Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple, but he did it politely?

Without a doubt, the Pope is shaking his head over this one.

2 posted on 04/02/2009 4:55:23 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: topher
Dear Father Cleary: Does some sense of "etiquette" trump life itself??
3 posted on 04/02/2009 4:55:59 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: topher

This is an issue we shold not waste time on.

He IS (God help us) the President. Presidents have spoken there before, and I am sure the college has had many points of view represents, and pro-choice is not their sole selection criteria.

Maybe he can be taught something about the sanctity of life.


4 posted on 04/02/2009 4:58:58 PM PDT by Mr. K (physically unable to proofreed (<---oops))
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To: topher

Ignorant clergy... why am I not surprised.

And add to that, a religious order within the Roman Catholic Church with no more teeth or backbone than has been demonstrated in the real of standing up with meaningful action for what is right.

Exactly how many Catholic politicians have been cut off from Communion? I know that threat has been made for decades now - that the church would cut off those who vote for or support abortion.

But then again - when a rat knows that the trap will never be sprung...


5 posted on 04/02/2009 5:00:00 PM PDT by TheBattman
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To: topher
In his interview with LSN Fr. Cleary also said that he objected to the "kind of expressions" being used to describe the Notre Dame case by some pro-life Catholics in the US, saying he was "surprised" at the level of anger.

Just a warmup, Padre. While I do not pretend to speak for the Almighty, I have a hard time thinking He would be very pleased, either.

6 posted on 04/02/2009 5:04:09 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Mr. K
WRONG!

We MUST make clear to Catholic institutions that this will NOT be tolerated!

ND faculty MUST be humiliated over this.

Their fund raising MUST be damaged.

Their student body MUST rise in opposition.

This is a move by liberal Catholics to buck the Bishops, and to rebel against the Pope.

ND MUST pay dearly for this -—

And ND will pay!

7 posted on 04/02/2009 5:04:49 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: topher

>> “We haven’t looked into it. It doesn’t seem like it’s the proper route to go,” he said. “Not now and maybe never.” He added that it “would be up to the bishops to do that. … For myself I feel that’s rather extreme. I hope they [the bishops] don’t do that.” <<

Hell-bound Liar. The bishops can’t do anything because he’s not under them in the hierarchy. It’s his job, and he’s outright lying to pass the buck.


8 posted on 04/02/2009 5:07:09 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Kansas58

Now for the even bigger outrage: An Obamanation just got named to take over the law school.


9 posted on 04/02/2009 5:08:19 PM PDT by dangus
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To: topher

Oh, hell, just rename the Congregation the Order of Pontius Pilate and be done with it.


10 posted on 04/02/2009 5:10:33 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: topher; Mrs. Don-o
"I don't think you can dis-invite the president of the United States...The life issues are the most important issues, but there is a certain etiquette to be followed."

I've never had the urge to slap a priest before, but this guy, even more than Fr. Jenkins, gives me that urge.

11 posted on 04/02/2009 5:13:04 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("From hell's heart I stab at thee... I spit my last breath at thee." ~ Khan Noonien Singh)
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To: Mr. K
Maybe he can be taught something about the sanctity of life.

By whom? Ain't nobody from ND going to dis "Our President."

12 posted on 04/02/2009 5:15:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: ALPAPilot

The Pope should toss them all out on their ears but...he won’t. Politics and Church. What is the difference anymore?


13 posted on 04/02/2009 5:25:36 PM PDT by cubreporter (Rush the greatest voice of CONSERVATISM! God Bless Rush Limbaugh!!!)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Congregation of the ‘Holy Cross’ my butt. This mealy-mouthed ‘priest’ is, imo, neither holy nor has a clue about the cross. Life or death, ‘Father’, that is the question. What side are you on? Spiritual Backbones are in order here...not mushy go along to get along abortion appeasers. Stand-Up, Dammit!!
14 posted on 04/02/2009 5:27:55 PM PDT by JPG
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To: topher
Rev. Hugh W. Cleary
Superior General
Tel in Rome: 00-39-06-612-962-11
hughcleary@cscroma.org

15 posted on 04/02/2009 5:32:03 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: Kansas58

I agree that ND must be stopped on this issue.ND knows very well that honoring Obama will Greatly help him to enact FOCA with very little harm done to Obama’s Catholic vote.ND also knew Mario Cuomo would use ND to present his COVER PLAN for pro-abortion Catholic politicians.ND thinks they are’CUTE’.


16 posted on 04/02/2009 5:33:14 PM PDT by ardara
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To: Mr. K
“This is an issue we shold not waste time on.”

Obama has started a process to review the conscience clause and change the current rules that allows doctors and others medical people to refuse to participate in abortions. Do you think Catholic doctors should be forced to perform abortions, or that Catholic hospitals should be shut down?
This is serious to me.

17 posted on 04/02/2009 5:56:08 PM PDT by detective
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To: Mr. K
“This is an issue we shold not waste time on.”

Obama has started a process to review the conscience clause and change the current rules that allows doctors and others medical people to refuse to participate in abortions. Do you think Catholic doctors should be forced to perform abortions, or that Catholic hospitals should be shut down?
This is serious to me.

18 posted on 04/02/2009 5:56:37 PM PDT by detective
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To: Robwin
Oh, hell, just rename the Congregation the Order of Pontius Pilate and be done with it.

LOL!

Does that mean we wash our hands of Notre Dame and this religious order?

19 posted on 04/02/2009 6:03:15 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher

When Catholic clergy don’t take abortion seriously, why shouldn’t lay Catholics think they can finesse a vote for a pro-abortion politican ?

Obama knows the political value an ND award offers to undercut Christian opposition to his anti-life agenda.

Jenkins faux pas is a growing scandal.


20 posted on 04/02/2009 6:11:16 PM PDT by AncientAirs
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