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Official text of Pope Benedict XVI's Homily for the Chrism Mass
Vatican Radio ^ | April 9, 2009 | Benedict XVI

Posted on 04/09/2009 10:09:51 AM PDT by ELS

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To: Dutchboy88
I am speaking of the real prohibition of marriage that has given rise to all of the uncontrollable priests that we read about everywhere.

The incidence of sexual abuse is higher in protestant congregations. Your pathetic smear is dross.

41 posted on 04/10/2009 10:44:46 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: annalex

Look, your club is among the most disorganized, self-congratulating, confused group known to man. Go read about Notre Dame awarding Obama an honorary degree for, hmmm, baby killing? You guys want a lock on everything through your peculiar gang back in Italy, but every one of you claims something different and explains away every other oddball behavior by using, “We get to make up the rules as we go”. The believing world doesn’t buy this claptrap. And the text you guys claim to have given us, doesn’t either.

Paul wrote to all the churches in homes (Read the letter to the Italians chapter 16). If you think that the remarks of I Cor. 11:22 intimates that the Corinth churches met in the Parhtenon (your new cathedral in Greece?), again, the believing world doesn’t buy this nonsense. The houses they had were the houses they came from and met in a central home/hall or whatever. Paul noted they liked to party when they got together rather than be serious about their gathering. That is as far as you can stretch this without making a fable out of a phrase. Go read the whole context.

And, if you think that identifying a man who can teach the truth is the Scriptural support for your sacerdotalism, the tottering tower is weaker than I thought. Keep pointing to the Bible, gentlemen/ladies...We will all keep praying your eyes will open to its message of Christ alone.


42 posted on 04/10/2009 10:48:58 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

Jesus gave the Vatican infaliability with respect to teaching faith and morals. There are sinners in the church, Vatican, and Papacy - it is only the chatechism which is infaliable. Remember - “bind on Earth is bound in Heaven”. This makes the Catholic Church the arbiters of sin.


43 posted on 04/10/2009 10:56:05 AM PDT by impimp
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To: Dutchboy88
We will all keep praying your eyes will open to its message of Christ alone.

My eyes are open to it, thus enabling me to reject it an insufficiently narrow embrace of all He has given us.

44 posted on 04/10/2009 10:58:32 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski
...to reject it as an insufficiently narrow...

Corrected.

45 posted on 04/10/2009 10:59:19 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Dutchboy88

Protestants lack the “Supreme Court” of the Vatican. This is why most denominations teach that contraception is OK. There is no “Rock” in protestantism - just a bunch of people looking into their “hearts” and interpreting selective bible passages the way they see fit.


46 posted on 04/10/2009 11:03:07 AM PDT by impimp
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To: Petronski

If you like the bible so much why do you disregard 7 books.


47 posted on 04/10/2009 11:05:49 AM PDT by impimp
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To: impimp

Wait just a darn minute, here!!! You mean you guys hold to Sola Chatechisma? Does that come from the Bible? If it does, does that mean we have Sola Scriptura proving Sola Chatechisma?


48 posted on 04/10/2009 11:13:36 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

I agree that the primitive churches were probably just so-designated private homes. I did not argue otherwise. I also agree that Catholicism is wholly supported by the Holy Scripture, this is why it is so easy to explain it by quoting it.

I also agree that the Notre Dame University should be stripped of its “Catholic” distinction, not that it is this thread’s topic.


49 posted on 04/10/2009 11:15:25 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: impimp

Go look at what Boston College teaches about self-indulged, fleshly, carnal, “sin boldly and enjoy it”. Where was your “Rock”? Seems more like gravel to us believers.

And the Rock you wish to refer to in the Scriptures is Christ. The interpretations take place in our minds as we read the text and understand what it is really getting at. You guys need some tall hats to help you get through the week.

Go to your Supreme Court. We go directly to Christ. Come join our freedom from oppression, from the constrictions of modern day Pharisaism, from error. You are welcome here, but leave the papalism behind.


50 posted on 04/10/2009 11:19:09 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: impimp

Your supreme court is kind of like the “council” that hashed out the Gospel in Acts 15. “Let’s impose the Mosaic Law on the Gentiles.” Yet, Peter stands up and says, “Wait, that’s screwed up. We couldn’t do it, why do we think they could?” Good job, council.

Believers don’t trust big councils anymore than they trust your Supreme Court. Look at the nonsensical junk that they peddle. Open your eyes and look.

Believers don’t look in their hearts, either. We follow the message of the Apostles delivered once, for all. And, if you want to lay claim to that, then for your sake Go Read It! It tells the story of Christ alone, without a monster organization, without the Priesthood, without anything but Him.


51 posted on 04/10/2009 12:40:50 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88; Petronski

***Oh, that’s coherant enough***

Enough for whom? I asked you to restate it. Are you unable or are you unwilling?

***you Vatican supporters cannot tolerate the truth. ***

We have the truth of God; I am unable to ascertain which truth you are in possession of.

***Re read it carefully, Mark, and you will get the drift that the believers not enslaved by Rome see these passages for what they are...evidence that the Priesthood is a figment of your imagination.***

Bitter jealousy is not becoming for a Christian. There are consequences for spurning the Church of Jesus Christ that He created and the Holy Spirit commissioned at Pentecost.


52 posted on 04/10/2009 1:42:39 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Petronski

***Christ is the leader of the Catholic Church. Benedict is merely His earthly Vicar.***

His steward. The King will return and claim the keys that He gave to Peter two millennia ago.


53 posted on 04/10/2009 1:44:16 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dutchboy88; annalex

***Look, your club is among the most disorganized, self-congratulating, confused group known to man. ***

One of my favourite demotivational posters is labelled: So, a seal walks into a club...

Which club are you referring to?

***Go read about Notre Dame awarding Obama an honorary degree for, hmmm, baby killing?***

Thank you for the clarification. Why are you not on NBC Sunday mornings instead of David Gregory?

***You guys want a lock on everything through your peculiar gang back in Italy, but every one of you claims something different and explains away every other oddball behavior by using, “We get to make up the rules as we go”.***

That’s funny. We believe one thing and it is the Protestant world that makes up things as they go. Are you sure that you haven’t slipped through a parallel dimension?

***The believing world doesn’t buy this claptrap.***

And what is it that you believe in?

***Paul wrote to all the churches in homes (Read the letter to the Italians chapter 16).***

Paul is a homeboy? My Bible does not contain any Paulian epistles to the Italians. Has your Bible slipped through from a parallel dimension also?

***If you think that the remarks of I Cor. 11:22 intimates that the Corinth churches met in the Parhtenon (your new cathedral in Greece?), again, the believing world doesn’t buy this nonsense.***

Why would the Corinthians meet at the Parthenon? The Parthenon is in Athens. Have you the benefit of an American public school education?

***Paul noted they liked to party when they got together rather than be serious about their gathering.***

Catholics are serious about their everlasting souls; do you think that hell is frivolous or worthy of laughter?

***Keep pointing to the Bible, gentlemen/ladies***

It doesn’t seem that whatever dimension that you have descended from considers it to be serious.

***We will all keep praying your eyes will open to its message of Christ alone.***

Finally something that makes sense. The Bible, brought to you by the Catholic Church, branches everywhere. Open Sundays for your benefit.


54 posted on 04/10/2009 1:57:43 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

Evidently your book has had the epistles to the Romans redacted. Much makes sense now, knowing you have not read this important Pauline letter.


55 posted on 04/10/2009 2:15:02 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

***Evidently your book has had the epistles to the Romans redacted. Much makes sense now, knowing you have not read this important Pauline letter.***

Ah, you meant Paul’s letter to the Romans. In case you didn’t know, Romans are a very minor subset of Italians. For instance, if you talk to a Sicilian, why not ask them if they are Roman and if you get away, I think that you will be at least entertained. Please try for accuracy in any further discourse; and if you would, could you please let me know where you are in terms of theology. Many of your compatriots leave us to guess which takes up much time and energy; I realize that significant energies go into developing novel and often disturbing theologies, so I suppose that it is expected for Christians to expend significant energies in guessing what man has come up with in order to even have dialogue with you guys.


56 posted on 04/10/2009 2:23:12 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dutchboy88
You mean you guys hold to Sola Catechisma?

No.

Does that come from the Bible?

As sola scriptura is false, the question is irrelevant.

57 posted on 04/10/2009 2:38:25 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: MarkBsnr

Mark, we are the ones that believe the truth rather than that man-made fabrication from the Vatican. They call us Christians and you Catholics.


58 posted on 04/10/2009 2:39:06 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
And the Rock you wish to refer to in the Scriptures is Christ.

This statement would make Christ a liar.

59 posted on 04/10/2009 2:41:33 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Dutchboy88
They call us Christians and you Catholics.

All Catholics are Christians.

60 posted on 04/10/2009 2:43:06 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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