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Notre Dame's Fr. Jenkins meeting with Obama in DC today?
Jill Stanek ^ | April 21, 2009 | Jill Stanek

Posted on 04/21/2009 4:00:57 PM PDT by Diago

April 21, 2009

Notre Dame's Fr. Jenkins meeting with Obama in DC today?

UPDATE, 4:25p: From Joseph Lawler (Phil's son) at the American Spectator:

... This is still merely a rumor, but indeed FlightAware shows the ND jet flying to Dulles this morning....

That Fr. Jenkins would rescind the invitation seems unlikely given that on Saturday Fr. Jenkins reaffirmed his invitation to a crowd celebrating black student-athletes at Notre Dame that "shook down the thunder" with applause. But then what could they be talking about? If there is any change in the status of Obama's invitation, it's big news.

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From Phil Lawler at Catholic Culture an hour ago...

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Well this is very interesting. Could it be possible that Barry won't attend after all?

Posted by: Joanne

at April 21, 2009 5:00 PM




Maybe someone pulled rank on Padre John. "Sorry Barry, my boss won't let me."

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1 posted on 04/21/2009 4:00:57 PM PDT by Diago
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To: Diago

AmSpecBlog

Obama at ND Update

By Joseph Lawler on 4.21.09 @ 4:39PM

For those who have been following the uproar the University of Notre Dame's decision to honor Pres. Obama by giving him the commencement podium and an honorary degree despite his extreme anti-life record, here's  new information. At Off the Record, Phil Lawler (my dad) is passing along a report that he has from a reliable source: ND President Fr. John Jenkins is in Washington, D.C. today for an unannounced meeting at the White House. This is still merely a rumor, but indeed FlightAware shows the ND jet flying to Dulles this morning.

What could they be talking about? We can only speculate. Last weekend Bishop Robert W. Finn of Kansas City joined 42 American bishops who have spoken out against Obama's invitation by claiming "I suspect that, since Notre Dame will need a scapegoat for this debacle, and Fr. Jenkins will probably lose his job, at this point perhaps he ought to determine to lose it for doing something right instead of something wrong. He ought to disinvite the President, who I believe would graciously accept the decision..."

That Fr. Jenkins would rescind the invitation seems unlikely given that on Saturday Fr. Jenkins reaffirmed his invitation to a crowd celebrating black student-athletes at Notre Dame that "shook down the thunder" with applause. But then what could they be talking about? If there is any change in the status of Obama's invitation, it's big news.

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2 posted on 04/21/2009 4:03:39 PM PDT by Diago (The Truth About Margaret Sanger at http://margaretsanger.blogspot.com/)
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To: Diago
Fr. Jenkins reaffirmed his invitation to a crowd celebrating black student-athletes at Notre Dame that "shook down the thunder" with applause.

Oh. Well. That's different. If a bunch of black jockstraps think it's cool, then who is the Archbishop to object?

Glad to see ND has its priorities straight.

3 posted on 04/21/2009 4:07:42 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Diago

The bishops who have so far expressed disapproval of Notre Dame's invitation to Obama (in alphabetical order) are:

1. Bishop John D'Arcy - Fort Wayne-South Bend, IN
2. Bishop Samuel Aquila - Fargo, ND
3. Bishop Gregory Aymond - Austin, TX
4. Bishop Gerald Barbarito - Palm Beach, FL
5. Bishop Leonard Blair - Toledo, OH
6. Archbishop Daniel Buechlein - Indianapolis, IN
7. Bishop Robert Baker - Birmingham, AL
8. Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz - Lincoln, NE
9. Archbishop Eusebius Beltran - Oklahoma City, OK
10. Auxiliary Bishop Oscar Cantú - San Antonio, TX
11. Bishop Paul Coakley - Salina, KS
12. Cardinal Daniel DiNardo - Houston, TX
13. Archbishop Timothy Dolan - New York, NY
14. Bishop Thomas Doran - Rockford, IL
15. Auxiliary Bishop John Dougherty - Scranton, PA
16. Bishop Robert Finn - Kansas City-St. Joseph, MO
17. Cardinal Francis George - Chicago, IL; President, USCCB
18. Bishop Gerald Gettelfinger - Evansville, IN
19. Archbishop José Gomez - San Antonio, TX
20. Bishop William Higi - Lafayette, IN
21. Archbishop Alfred Hughs - New Orleans, LA
22. Bishop Joseph Latino - Jackson, MS
23. Bishop Jerome Listecki - La Crosse, WI
24. Bishop William E. Lori - Bridgeport, CT
25. Bishop George Lucas - Springfield, IL
26. Bishop Robert Lynch - St. Petersburg, FL
27. Bishop Joseph Martino - Scranton, PA
28. Bishop Charles Morlino - Madison, WI
29. Bishop George Murry - Youngstown, OH
30. Archbishop John J. Myers - Newark, NJ
31. Bishop R. Walker Nickless - Sioux City, IA
32. Archbishop John C. Nienstedt - St. Paul-Minneapolis, MN
33. Archbishop Edwin O'Brien - Baltimore, MD
34. Bishop Thomas Olmsted - Phoenix, AZ
35. Archbishop Daniel E. Pilarczyk - Cincinnati, OH
36. Bishop Kevin Rhoades - Harrisburg, PA
37. Bishop Alexander Sample - Marquette, MI
38. Bishop Edward J. Slattery - Tulsa, OK
39. Bishop Richard Stika - Knoxville, TN
40. Bishop Anthony Taylor - Little Rock, AR
41. Bishop Robert Vasa - Baker, OR
42. Bishop Thomas Wenski - Orlando, FL

This is from LifeSiteNews.com web site...

BTW, I truly believe that Pope Benedict is watching this fiasco at Notre Dame and taking notes!


4 posted on 04/21/2009 4:09:10 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; topher

Ping! Over here!


5 posted on 04/21/2009 4:12:01 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Exactly what I thought.


6 posted on 04/21/2009 4:14:04 PM PDT by joesjane (The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: Diago

“What could they be talking about?”

Can Jeremiah Wright wear one of those funny hats?
Could you cover up touchdown Jesus?
Is the Moses statue Moses Molone or the other one?


7 posted on 04/21/2009 4:20:02 PM PDT by Phillipian
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To: Diago

Notre Dame has its own JET??? Jenkins is in for a major tongue-lashing. (After he gives Obama his tongue-bath.)


8 posted on 04/21/2009 4:22:34 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If Bishop D'Arcy finds out a priest is molesting kids, he will boycott the parish's Fall Supper!!!)
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To: Diago
Fr. Jenkins will probably lose his job, at this point perhaps he ought to determine to lose it for doing something right instead of something wrong.

Perhaps Obama has offered Fr. Jenkins a position in DC should he lose his job.

9 posted on 04/21/2009 4:23:25 PM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: Salvation

Oh! Wow!


10 posted on 04/21/2009 4:24:35 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Sorry: Tag-line presently at the dry cleaners. Please find suitable bumper-sticker instead.)
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To: Salvation

Just for the record:

Bishop Morlino’s name is Robert.


11 posted on 04/21/2009 4:24:35 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If Bishop D'Arcy finds out a priest is molesting kids, he will boycott the parish's Fall Supper!!!)
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Speculation ping!


12 posted on 04/21/2009 4:25:31 PM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: Diago

Obama must have new orders for him.
Unless they are performing a ritual together as part of the preparations.

13 posted on 04/21/2009 4:28:35 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Arthur McGowan
Notre Dame has its own JET???

Beat me to it.

14 posted on 04/21/2009 4:28:55 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Arthur McGowan; Diago; Salvation; Mrs. Don-o
Jenkins is in for a major tongue-lashing.

Thank you, Salvation, for posting the list of bishops who have spoken out about this. IIRC, aren't the offices of the USCCB in DC?

15 posted on 04/21/2009 4:31:28 PM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi

Obama had been the saving the part about the gnostic esoteric
secret Gumby worship until graduation but thought he should initiate Jenkins
today so he would be prepared for the ritual ceremony in May.

16 posted on 04/21/2009 4:37:23 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Phillipian

Is the Moses statue Moses Molone or the other one?
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There was another one? (joke).


17 posted on 04/21/2009 4:38:08 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Arthur McGowan

Jenkins is in for a major tongue-lashing. (After he gives Obama his tongue-bath.)

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EWWWWWW. That is an image I DID NOT need.


18 posted on 04/21/2009 4:38:47 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Diago

I wonder if pres. O wants this fight. I wonder if he wants out but has to have Fr. J. disinvite him so it seems that ND caved and not the White House. If I was a rabid lib pro-abort prez./pol I would not want to rile the Catholics up, you would want the soft abortion war kept in the background, while working with Catholics on “peace and justice”. Bringing abortion up in this way is a huge rallying cry for folks opposed to it.

Freegards


19 posted on 04/21/2009 4:43:42 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Salvation

They missed MY bishop, His Eminence, Daniel CARDINAL DiNardo, who condemned it immediately.


20 posted on 04/21/2009 4:49:46 PM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: Ransomed

He speaks at Georgetown and makes them cover up the Cross. He speaks at ND and gets an honorary degree. (As we used to say about football, ND sucks).

I think he’s LOOKING for a fight with the Catholics. May be peeved we didn’t represent at his inauguration.


21 posted on 04/21/2009 4:52:19 PM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: Diago
the ND jet flying to Dulles this morning.

Shouldn't Jenkins be traveling in a hybrid car?

22 posted on 04/21/2009 5:36:33 PM PDT by syriacus (If we don't stop Obama soon, we'll all be singing, "There's NO business, but "O" business.")
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The list is from LifeSiteNews.

Hmmm.


23 posted on 04/21/2009 5:41:32 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

That CINO Jenkins has been called in to advise JINO Georgetown on how best to advance Catholic education by giving the shaft to B16 and the bishops - and get away with it.


24 posted on 04/21/2009 5:48:39 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Member of the Long Grey Line)
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To: NYer

0bama and Jenkins

discussing

jobs ?
positions ?
with one another?

You don’t say?

Somebody is getting the shaft.

Nuts and Bolts!
Nuts and Bolts!
We got screwed!


25 posted on 04/21/2009 5:58:32 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Member of the Long Grey Line)
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To: Diago

Jenkins and big O together? No doubt they are up to no good.


26 posted on 04/21/2009 6:00:38 PM PDT by m4629
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To: Diago

Interesting, thanks for posting! I am hoping that this might mean that Jenkins has been told he cannot present Obama with the degree, and that Obama will therefore cancel (which I think he would do if he couldn’t get the honorary degree).

However, realistically speaking, I doubt it...Jenkins probably just went to reassure Bambi that all was cool and those nasty obstreperous folks weren’t going to disrupt his moment.


27 posted on 04/21/2009 6:31:26 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius
I heard that over 17 major donors have already pulled their gifts this year. (Relevant Radio Source...) There could be a shake-up going on. At any rate at this point there is almost a half million signatures protesting the appearance of Obambi.

I am heartened by that, but would be more pleased to see that this Obambi thing never comes off.

At any rate its good to see Catholics and committed Christians take a stand.

28 posted on 04/21/2009 6:41:39 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Salvation
I have emailed both the Superior General (in Rome, Italy) of the Holy Cross Congregration, and Father John Jenkins about Canon 916 and Father John Jenkins.

I firmly believe that Father Jenkins is in serious sin. Some have disputed this with me, but Father Jenkins has disobeyed the 2004 directive from the USCCB on two major accounts -- giving the Honorary Law Degree and also giving Obama the honor of giving the Commencement talk at Notre Dame (a Catholic University).

Marymount Manhattan College got kicked out of the Catholic Church for inviting Hillary Clinton to give the commencement in 2005. Cardinal Egan did that...

Additionally, Father John Jenkins has caused a great scandal in the Roman Catholic Church...

Do you agree or disagree?

29 posted on 04/21/2009 9:16:27 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Salvation
I believe that Father John Jenkins will be forced to resign over this.

Additionally, there will be some sort of committee set up to oversee such activities in coming years at Notre Dame -- to "approve" who gives a commencement.

On the downside, Georgetown is going to give pro-abort VP Joe Biden an honoary degree...

30 posted on 04/21/2009 9:20:15 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher

Agree.


31 posted on 04/21/2009 9:22:13 PM PDT by John W
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To: Salvation; Mrs. Don-o
We are overlooking a very big reason for Father John Jenkins to go to Washington, DC.

That would be the "Apostolic Annuncio"

The way that Pope Benedict would convey a very urgent message quickly (and directly) would be by such a meeting.

Such a meeting would be likely, as a representative of the USCCB could also attend, as well as a representative for Bishop D'Arcy (Diocese of Fort Wayne/South Bend).

In other words, Being asked to see the "Apostolic Annuncio" would be a way of Pope Benedict being able to "privately" reprimand Father Jenkins (in a sense)...

32 posted on 04/21/2009 10:19:52 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Northern Yankee
I heard that over 17 major donors have already pulled their gifts this year.

That's the only thing that will make an impression. But I think Jenkins is so arrogant and desirous of his 15 minutes that he is going to try to make this go ahead no matter what. His response - or non-response, actually - to everything from the bishops to committees of students indicates to me that this has now become a personal power issue for him and that unless he is stopped from the outside by a direct order (from his superiors, perhaps; where are they?) he will go ahead with it.

One of the things that really amazes me is how loudly Jenkins is announcing that, in the choice between the Church and Obama, he has chosen Obama and nothing said by anyone in the Church will have any effect on him. The fact that he is so confident makes me wonder how many other people there are like him in the upper ranks of the Church.

33 posted on 04/22/2009 4:09:36 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

We were warned many times over the past 2,000 or so years, that this day would come. Seeing important church people sucking upto the Antichrist is hardly a surprise. Seeing others rise up to stop them — now THAT is a surprise that I hope continues.


34 posted on 04/22/2009 4:18:22 AM PDT by Appleby
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To: Salvation

...and so is his boss :)


35 posted on 04/22/2009 5:01:55 AM PDT by cthemfly25
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To: Appleby
We were warned many times over the past 2,000 or so years, that this day would come.

That's true. I guess I just never thought it would happen here and now. But we never do, I suppose.

36 posted on 04/22/2009 6:03:21 AM PDT by livius
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To: topher
I think Georgetown is disappointed that not much fuss is being made over the award to Biden. The truth is, people stopped taking Gtown seriously as a Catholic school decades ago. Gtown wants big press for the Biden award, and everybody is just yawning.
37 posted on 04/22/2009 6:04:32 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: ichabod1

“I think he’s LOOKING for a fight with the Catholics. May be peeved we didn’t represent at his inauguration.”

Well, I would say that is foolish if you want the baby butchery mills working at maximum. I would think he would not want large public debates about abortion which let folks know that there really are tons of folks who think it is murder.

Freegards


38 posted on 04/22/2009 6:43:44 AM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

OK, I won’t do this often, but I’m going to give that man a pass on the covering of the crucifix. Can you imagine the outrage we would be expressing if he had given a speech and been photographed, not just with that darn halo he keeps showing up with, but taking it a step further, with the Cross of Our Lord and IHS up behind his head? He was in a damned if you do damned if you don’t situation there.

I will say this — why did he have to speak in front of it, and why did he have to go get in Georgetown’s face in the first place? Obama, leave Catholics alone. Stop persecuting us.


39 posted on 04/22/2009 8:09:26 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: Salvation

Not to worry, that’s why I said “THEY” missed Daniel... no criticism of your self intended.


40 posted on 04/22/2009 8:10:43 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: topher

I wish he would be “recalled to Rome” and then sort of wither away.


41 posted on 04/22/2009 8:12:30 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: livius

Well, look... Something about this man’s title bothered me. President of a large prestigious university, and his title is only Father? I would have thought he would have been made a Monsignor at the least.

For those of you who are non-catholics, Monsignor is a largely ceremonial title, given to respected and cherished Fathers who have acheived some level of status beyond simply that of parish priest. It reflects the fact that not every great priest will become a bishop, but nevertheless many among the ranks do perform outstanding service to Our Lord and the congregation.

The fact that he had not been elevated to the title raises many questions for me. It would seem that he would receive it just to recognize his rank at the University, unless someone was standing in the way. Methinks he has made some enemies along the way.


42 posted on 04/22/2009 8:18:44 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: ichabod1
Dear ichabod1,

I don't think that priests who are members of religious orders (such as the Congregation of the Holy Cross, of which Fr. Jenkins is a member) receive the title of Monsignor.


sitetest

43 posted on 04/22/2009 8:30:49 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

Ah! You learn something new every day, especially when you’re a relatively new Catholic. I’ll keep that in mind.


44 posted on 04/22/2009 8:43:33 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: ichabod1
Dear ichabod1,

The exception to the general rule is when priests of religious orders also are bishops, as bishops may make use of the title “Monsignor.”


sitetest

45 posted on 04/22/2009 8:45:28 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: topher

Bumping. Very interested in seeing what comes of this.


46 posted on 04/22/2009 9:15:35 AM PDT by Lorica
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To: Diago
This is still merely a rumor, but indeed FlightAware shows the ND jet flying to Dulles this morning....

Why does the president of ND need his own plane?

47 posted on 04/22/2009 9:17:33 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: ichabod1
They could have picked a different location.
A Tyson's Corner or PG County shopping center or Popeye's maybe with a Mister Microphone.

He wanted the fake Ivy Catholic college setting to appear intellectual and
sophisticated. Hence, the blasphemous biblical metaphors in his speech.

48 posted on 04/22/2009 10:40:25 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: ichabod1

I think I’ll add him to the end of my list.


49 posted on 04/22/2009 12:26:58 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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50 posted on 04/22/2009 12:40:26 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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