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To: safisoft

Let us recall why you are trying to make Paul some sort of quasi-judaizer. You have asserted all the traditions Paul spoke of in 2 Thess are subsumed into the New Testament Scripture.

All other issues aside, and they are many, that is an interpretation, BY DEFINITION, unless you can find a verse that says exactly that.

You must face the fact your problem here is existential. Either you are being intellectually dishonest, suffering from cognitive dissonance, or just plain don’t know what the word “interpretation” means.


312 posted on 05/04/2009 5:36:21 AM PDT by papertyger (Advertising makes journalism an assault weapon.)
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To: papertyger
All other issues aside, and they are many, that is an interpretation, BY DEFINITION, unless you can find a verse that says exactly that.

Argue with Paul. If you think "completely observant" does not equal "obedient to the Law" then it is you that cannot read Greek, much less English. Let me give you a clue: we use the phrases "shomer" or "frum" which do not equal "observant" - but there is no doubt what it means to us or you. You know full well, and play coy. Obedient to the Law, a Pharisee, having done nothing against the customs of our fathers... is completely observant. Spin all you want... There are notable Roman Catholic scholars that would cringe at your assertions to the contrary.

Take these men, join in their purification rites and pay their expenses, so that they can have their heads shaved. Then everybody will know there is no truth in these reports about you, but that you yourself are living in obedience to the Law. Acts 21:24

"My brothers, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee. I stand on trial because of my hope in the resurrection of the dead." Acts 23:6

Three days later he called together the leaders of the Jews. When they had assembled, Paul said to them: "My brothers, although I have done nothing against our people or against the customs of our ancestors, I was arrested in Jerusalem and handed over to the Romans. Acts 28:17

I am sure you could argue about the "interpretation" of the pogroms or the Inquisition too. I can hear it, "It wasn't really torture..." It seems that you will do anything to defend the indefensible, as long as has to do with Catholicism.
314 posted on 05/04/2009 5:54:09 AM PDT by safisoft
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