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1 posted on 06/06/2009 8:01:57 PM PDT by Salvation
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**The original Reformers affirmed the Trinity without qualification. Thus Luther and Calvin, and the sixteenth century confessions of Protestant faith uniformly attested to the Trinity of Persons in God. But the subjectivism of the Protestant principles paved the way to a gradual attrition of the faith, so that rationalism has made deep inroads into the denominations. The most common form of this rationalism takes the three persons in God as only three personifications of the divine attributes, e.g., divine power is personified by the Father, divine wisdom by the Son, and divine goodness by the Holy Spirit.**

I was aware of the first part of this, but not the second part.


2 posted on 06/06/2009 8:02:58 PM PDT by Salvation ( With God all things are possible.)
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Jesus never used the word heretic or spread the meme of heresy..
He did warn against sheep pens and false shepards though.. (John ch 10)..

He also didn't come to make a religion but instead a family..
In a family some members are often not too smart..
but they are indeed family..

4 posted on 06/06/2009 8:14:39 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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Will our finite minds ever be able to grasp the paradoxical enigma of the Godhead? No.

I am convinced that the only God we'll ever know, and the only God that we'll ever see is Jesus Christ our Lord.

This verse speaking of Christ: “For in Him dwelleth the fullness of the Godhead bodily.” Colosians 2:9

Three distinct persons, one God, all of them in Jesus Christ our Lord. Our Lord never COMMANDED us to understand, only to believe. Amen.

9 posted on 06/06/2009 8:29:35 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Give me liberty...don't make me come and get it.)
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I see the Catholic's understanding of the Trinity no less heretical than anyone else's understanding...No one from your religion has been given more insight into the workings of the Trinity than that which has been revealed to everyone in the scriptures...

I think most people don't dwell on it too much...We know there are three, but there is one...Jesus is God, the Holy Spirit is the same God and of course the Father is God...

If God wanted us to know more, He'd have revealed more...

Calling someone a heretic for not believing your particular 'guess' doesn't seem to be too Christian to me...

16 posted on 06/06/2009 9:26:09 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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Excellent. Thank you so much Salvation!


21 posted on 06/06/2009 11:10:28 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

The following is a literal translation of the Greek text of the Constantinopolitan form, the brackets indicating the words altered or added in the Western liturgical form in present use:

We believe (I believe) in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, and born of the Father before all ages. (God of God) light of light, true God of true God. Begotten not made, consubstantial to the Father, by whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven. And was incarnate of the Holy Ghost and of the Virgin Mary and was made man; was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate, suffered and was buried; and the third day rose again according to the Scriptures. And ascended into heaven, sits at the right hand of the Father, and shall come again with glory to judge the living and the dead, of whose Kingdom there shall be no end. And (I believe) in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of life, who proceeds from the Father (and the Son), who together with the Father and the Son is to be adored and glorified, who spoke by the Prophets. And one holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. We confess (I confess) one baptism for the remission of sins. And we look for (I look for) the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen."

28 posted on 06/07/2009 12:45:00 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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