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To: daniel1212

I’ve found a better approach on the topic is to refocus our attention, 1st upon God, then by confessing any known sin and unknown sin or missing His mark, then approaching God by His Word and allowing Him to grow our spirit and understanding, rather than attempting to reading Scripture by our own understanding independent of faith in Christ.

To avoid being distracted by legalism or our own understanding independent of God, which may have been formed from worldly attempts to perform good, instead of focusing on homosexuality, our focus might be better directed simply at the topic of sexual immorality, which has the same consequence and grouped with homosexuality in its discussions throughout Scripture.

After turning back to Him, we might look at His Word in the following verses.

Lev 18:22-24 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. Nor shall you mate with any animal, to defile yourself with it. Nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it. It is perversion. Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for by all these the nations are defiled, which I am casting out before you.

Lev 20:10,13,15-16 The man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, he who commits adultery with his neighbor’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress, shall surely be put to death. If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. If a man mates with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal. If a woman approaches any animal and mates with it, you shall kill the woman and the animal. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood is upon them.

Mark 10:19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.

Gal 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these: Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, {20} Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, {21} Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like; of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

2 Pet 2:9-19 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: {10} But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. {11} Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. {12} But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; {13} And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; {14} Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: {15} Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; {16} But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man’s voice forbad the madness of the prophet. {17} These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. {18} For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. {19} While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Eph 5:3-12 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; {4} Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
{5} For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. {6} Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. {7} Be not ye therefore partakers with them. {8} For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: {9} (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) {10} Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. {11} And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. {12} For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.

Col 3:5-6 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: {6} For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:

1 Th 4:3-5 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: {4} That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; {5} Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:

1 Cor 6:9-10 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, {10} nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

Heb 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Prov 2:16-19 To deliver thee from the strange woman, even from the stranger which flattereth with her words; {17} Which forsaketh the guide of her youth, and forgetteth the covenant of her God. {18} For her house inclineth unto death, and her paths unto the dead. {19} None that go unto her return again, neither take they hold of the paths of life.

Prov 5:3-4 For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil: {4} But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a twoedged sword.

Prov 6:24-29 To keep thee from the evil woman, from the flattery of the tongue of a strange woman. {25} Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids. {26} For by means of a whorish woman a man is brought to a piece of bread: and the adulteress will hunt for the precious life. {27} Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned? {28} Can one go upon hot coals, and his feet not be burned? {29} So he that goeth in to his neighbour’s wife; whosoever toucheth her shall not be innocent.

Prov 6:32 But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul.

Prov 9:13-18 A foolish woman is clamorous: she is simple, and knoweth nothing. {14} For she sitteth at the door of her house, on a seat in the high places of the city, {15} To call passengers who go right on their ways: {16} Whoso is simple, let him turn in hither: and as for him that wanteth understanding, she saith to him, {17} Stolen waters are sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant. {18} But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.

Prov 22:14 The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein.

Prov 23:27 For a whore is a deep ditch; and a strange woman is a narrow pit.

Prov 30:20 Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done no wickedness.

Jer 7:9-10 Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not; {10} And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?


6 posted on 06/13/2009 7:07:27 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

The apostle Paul focused on it as a particular perverse manifestation of idolatry, though other sins are included.

But the reason for the focus on my part is because of the inordinate amount of labor that pro homosex polemicists have put into distorting Scripture for there ends, and thus it requires a respond. Heroin use is also bad, as is adultery, but i find few who write 500 page books seeking to justify it, while working to foist it upon all, from kindergarten up. It is because of such efforts that it attract more attention than “normal” sins.

Certainly must seek to obey Heb. 12:1,2, and all that is manifest as sin is to be avoided. However, you seem to have the idea this precludes focusing on homosexuality, which would be hypocritical.

But it is not necessarily hypocritical to judge sin, if one is repentant and seeking holiness, but it is one thing to seek to live up to Biblical holiness while confessing you come short it, as i do in its fullness, and another thing to manifestly alter the Bible so that it conforms to your standard of holiness.


12 posted on 06/13/2009 7:27:48 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( "O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the LORD." (Jer 22:29))
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To: Cvengr
To avoid being distracted by legalism or our own understanding independent of God, which may have been formed from worldly attempts to perform good, instead of focusing on homosexuality, our focus might be better directed simply at the topic of sexual immorality, which has the same consequence and grouped with homosexuality in its discussions throughout Scripture.

It may be in the same class, but I would give it special attention since it is actually a punishment by God for refusing to honor and Obey God and it binds all kinds of other wickedness on the soul that has this punishment inflicted on them. Furthermore, as the scriptures you have listed prove, God considers it not just a sin, but an abomination.

That kind of makes this sin stand apart from most others as someting more severe.
30 posted on 06/13/2009 9:19:08 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Cvengr

Great list of Bible Passages, thanks for taking the time to research and post them.


31 posted on 06/13/2009 10:54:03 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann in 2012. With Liz Cheney as Secretary of State.)
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To: Cvengr

By golly you are a doctrinal believer.
Don’t know why you didn’t answer to my post before. You do have a right to your privacy.
You might check out my local assemblies website.
We have some amazing doctrinal resources there.
At no charge.
www.gbible.org
In his name and Service


38 posted on 06/13/2009 10:08:37 PM PDT by jokar (The Church age is the only time we will be able to Glorify God, http://www.gbible.org)
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