“You see, you make the mistakes that those who debate from one standpoint make. You are absolutely right. Therefore any other pov is wrong.”
If we are both right, then we have nothing to debate. Debate exists because both sides think they are right, and they appeal to reason and facts to convince the other, if possible. If you didn’t believe my pov was wrong, you would have no reason to post.
“YOU gave me the source that pointed to the fact that St. Jerome translated ALL the original sources. Now that’s not convenient.”
No, Jerome didn’t HAVE all the original sources. I don’t have time to explain now, but will try to post later today on what I mean.
“You are lead by the Holy Spirit to believe that your translation is right, so you are right. However when I am lead by the Holy Spirit to believe that the Catholic translation is right, I am wrong.”
I doubt there are a lot of significant differences between us based on translation. My problem with the claim that Mary ascended into heaven is that I’ve seen no scripture to back it up. I haven’t read all of those books where Catholics and Protestants disagree about canon, so I grant that you may find it there.
“You can’t prove that there were no other texts that what you are looking at. None of us can. But because they don’t suit your argument, poof, gone.”
No. I would have nothing but loathing for any scholar who would toss out a bit of scripture because it wasn’t convenient for his beliefs. Indeed, it is the challenging scriptures that teach us the most, since we find them challenging because of our failures.
“Oh and as for the “understanding English” part, that’s a bit personal and against the rules of the Religion Forum.”
May or may not be against the rules, but it was rude and I apologize. Sorry.
No problem with the “understanding English” part. I’ve been in some Heated debates here and frustration can come out.
My only point is that one can be open to debate and consider all sides. Or can say, my point is absolute and disregard one POV absolutely.
I did my time in “Bible Churches” met some wonderfully intelligent people who totally disregarded anything the Catholic Church said, simply because it was from the Catholic Church. It made me look back at the RCC from a different pov. I could do that because I grew up Catholic.
When the RCC’s Bible was quoted, with any backup, I was thrown back to the “the Holy Spirit told me”. Well the Holy Spirit lead me back home. After my time in Bible Study Fellowship, who put those subtle digs in to Catholic teachings I now study in my parish. With open eyes to all POV.
I have a friend who was totally Anti-Catholic. A co-worker told him to look at the Bible from a pov that the Catholics were right. Suddenly, a whole new world opened up. He and his wife and now the VERY best apologists in our parish.
God works in mysterious ways.