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To: bronxville

Mary was a mortal human being, a sinner like all of us.


2 posted on 06/18/2009 4:03:21 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL; humblegunner

Martin Luther, Founder of the Reform, Speaks on Mary

In his sermon of August 15, 1522, the last time Martin Luther preached on the Feast of the Assumption, he stated:

There can be no doubt that the Virgin Mary is in heaven. How it happened we do not know. And since the Holy Spirit has told us nothing about it, we can make of it no article of faith . . . It is enough to know that she lives in Christ.

The veneration of Mary is inscribed in the very depths of the human heart. (Sermon, September 1, 1522).

[She is the] highest woman and the noblest gem in Christianity after Christ . . . She is nobility, wisdom, and holiness personified. We can never honor her enough. Still honor and praise must be given to her in such a way as to injure neither Christ nor the Scriptures. (Sermon, Christmas, 1531).

No woman is like you. You are more than Eve or Sarah, blessed above all nobility, wisdom, and sanctity. (Sermon, Feast of the Visitation, 1537).

One should honor Mary as she herself wished and as she expressed it in the Magnificat. She praised God for his deeds. How then can we praise her? The true honor of Mary is the honor of God, the praise of God’s grace . . . Mary is nothing for the sake of herself, but for the sake of Christ . . . Mary does not wish that we come to her, but through her to God. (Explanation of the Magnificat, 1521).

Luther gives the Blessed Virgin the exalted position of “Spiritual Mother” for Christians:

It is the consolation and the superabundant goodness of God, that man is able to exult in such a treasure. Mary is his true Mother .. (Sermon, Christmas, 1522)

Mary is the Mother of Jesus and the Mother of all of us even though it was Christ alone who reposed on her knees . . . If he is ours, we ought to be in his situation; there where he is, we ought also to be and all that he has ought to be ours, and his mother is also our mother. (Sermon, Christmas, 1529).

Martin Luther had the belief of Mary’s Immaculate Conception, Luther’s words follow:

It is a sweet and pious belief that the infusion of Mary’s soul was effected without original sin; so that in the very infusion of her soul she was also purified from original sin and adorned with God’s gifts, receiving a pure soul infused by God; thus from the first moment she began to live she was free from all sin” (Sermon: “On the Day of the Conception of the Mother of God,” 1527).

She is full of grace, proclaimed to be entirely without sin- something exceedingly great. For God’s grace fills her with everything good and makes her devoid of all evil. (Personal {”Little”} Prayer Book, 1522).”

That’s what Martin Luther had to say about the Blessed Mother. So even the reformers/rebels revered and honored Holy Mary. What happened to the Protestant Tradition?


4 posted on 06/18/2009 4:08:57 PM PDT by bronxville
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To: GeronL

Free of sin so that she could bear Christ in her womb.

You are getting erroneous information from you Catholic bashing churches.


6 posted on 06/18/2009 4:10:52 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: GeronL
Mary was a mortal human being, a sinner like all of us.

Incorrect. See HERE:

The Immaculate Conception of the Mother of God
31 posted on 06/18/2009 4:34:34 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: GeronL
Adding to the discussion:

Luther, Calvin, and Other Early Protestants on the Perpetual Virginity of Mary

Luther, Calvin, and Other Early Protestants on the Perpetual Virginity of Mary

The Protestant Reformers on the Virgin Mary

Zwingli’s’ Mariology: On Mary “Full of Grace”

117 posted on 06/18/2009 6:59:15 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: GeronL

No, Mary was free of original sin. God would not join Himself to sin or imperfection. Jesus was made up of Mary’s genetic code and took on her human traits. Mary was not a sinner. God would not have picked a sinner to mother His Son, teach Him, train Him, and care for Him for His whole life.

The angel Gabriel called Mary blessed among all women and full of grace. Did God’s messenger lie? Logic dictates that Mary was not a sinner.

Even Martin Luther thought so:
“She is full of grace, proclaimed to be entirely without sin- something exceedingly great. For God’s grace fills her with everything good and makes her devoid of all evil. (Personal {”Little”} Prayer Book, 1522).”


149 posted on 06/18/2009 9:28:35 PM PDT by Melian ("Now, Y'all without sin can cast the first stone." ~H.I. McDunnough)
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