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To: Unam Sanctam
Unam Sanctam, thank you for a serious reply without any attempt to rationalize a bad idea, although you are stopping short of saying the Church made a mistake theologically when it translated "and with your spirit" as "and with you." Let's face it, it was an activist Church, and both JPII and BXVI were participants and a significant part of that (liberal) movement.

Obviously when things went further than ever anticipated and the Church had to deal with such embarrassments as cookies, and Kool Aid "communions," ordinary glass chalices, and clown "masses," and vestal nuns, and skimpily clad or bare breasted women inside the churches, the pope (JPII) began to resist, because he could (all along) and should have done so from the start, had he wanted it. BXVI certainly imposes his vision of what's good for the Church without much trouble, or at least it seems so.

59 posted on 06/22/2009 1:27:18 PM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: kosta50
Let's face it, it was an activist Church...

Yes.

...and both JPII and BXVI were participants and a significant part of that (liberal) movement.

Mulefritters.

61 posted on 06/22/2009 6:46:43 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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