Posted on 07/10/2009 5:38:22 AM PDT by jacknhoo
No, I have no idea where Michael Jackson is now. I suspect (and hope) he is in Heaven because of his gospel upbringing, but only God knows.
I was commenting on people praying for Michael- now. When someone is gone, it makes no sense to pray for them. To be absent from the body is to be with the Lord... or otherwise. No prayers can help you once you leave this mortal coil.
What about making a dead person an idol? Is that all right?
Ahhhh, the cleansing effects of dropping temperature upon The Morally Twisted! Let's all put on our sequined latex gloves and give him our salute of The Grabbing of the Crotch. (white face paint optional).
38 Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you." Luke 6:38 (NKJV)
OKay, I am willing to be judged by the same standard I am judging the pedophile who ran off to Bahrain were sex with little boys is legal. Liberals always try to turn Christ's admonitions against hypocrisy into a prohibition against behavioral standards. Their Bibles get a lot of verses blacked out.
The point of the rest of the passage being?
That the same standard by which you judge and by which you forgive will be applied to you.
This same thought is repeated throughout the new testament.
It is a command to put your own house in order.
This article is entirely off the mark.
The issue was never with a quiet, family memorial of Michael Jackson.
The issue was a national slobberfest in which MJ and his behavior was normalize...no, worse, it was promoted.
In the face of any effort to normalize pedophilia, honest people must respond. Sad that THE MSM forced a necessity to tell the truth.
I think the “measure” refers to charity and generosity; and not to condemning someone to hell.
The latter is not quantifiable. The former, is.
Oh, and all these verses were imagined and written down by men, by the way.
This passage has suffered significant abuse by the live-and-let-live crowd. They particularly like to isolate verse 1, “Judge not, that ye be not judged.” (Isn’t it amazing how many people have memorized that verse?) Pulling it completely out of the context in which Jesus spoke these words, they use it to criticize those who take a stand for righteousness among those who flaunt their sin. The point here is that the Pharisees practiced a false, high-profile, in-your-face righteousness. The Pharisees were, in fact, corrupt - not righteous. That’s the context in which Jesus accused these Pharisees regarding their quick-to-judge practices. In fact, Believers are to take a stand for righteousness and shun Believers who practice sin. You can clearly see that principle in I Corinthians 5:11 (see notes), “But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.” But be careful; make certain that, while you’re separating yourself from Christians practicing wickedness, you don’t have glaring inconsistencies in your own Christian testimony.
http://www.bibletrack.org/cgi-bin/bible.pl?dy=6&mo=2
When caught red handed taking words out of context, immediately claim down is up, and that the origina speaker was irrelevant anyway.
I assume this behavior carries over to the other relationships and discourses in your life.
I am sad for you, and for your family.
The type of memorial and slobberfest by the MSM are actions of those still living.
I believe MJ and the leftist MSM and the Democratic (socialist) Party of America all attempt to normalize man/boy love, pedophilia, sexual liberation for children, etc., all in an attempt to eliminate/destroy the grip of religious tradition on persons. This is an effort to deny the dignity of the human person making human persons simply objects to be used and discarded based on want or need of the State.
Hilarious, especially when there's no real context between the verses, to speak of.
See the subsequent verse:
Luke 6:40
A student is not above his teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like his teacher.
Now what does a teacher have anything to do with being generous or condemning others to hell? Your "context" is imaginary.
I assume this behavior carries over to the other relationships and discourses in your life.
Nope. See above.
I am sad for you, and for your family.
I am glad that your doling out of false concerns and condemnations will help you in filling your moral voids by giving you a false sense of superiority. Every evangelizing religion on the planet was invented and designed to do so- to justify hypocrisy.
Like I mentioned at the very beginning here, it's all a one-size-fits-all justification tool, and a psychological convenience.
Thank you for putting that into the proper context.
Also, great site you linked to - daily Bible readings and study.
I’m glad Michael Jackson is dead because I’m sure he’s glad he’s dead, as Glenn Beck said. Well, I agree. But I don’t agree with everyone talking trash about him. You should respect the dead, unless it’s someone as bad as Saddam Hussein or Hitler.
Hi Newbie....I hardly trashed Jackson....Have a feeling you’re quite a bit younger than myself. I’m entitled to my own feelings....I sure wouldn’t let my kids sleep in his bed...WAKE UP!!!
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