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To: Elsie

OK, that I didn’t hear about.
Emma made a big mistake there. But the Lord commanded her to be true and faithful. Beating someone up with a broom doesn’t really fall into that range.
And as for Joesph, he made a big mistake in not following his own rules there. But as I said, our church denounces polygamy and no one EVER, EVER, married a young child. EVER. And our Church has long since denounced polygamy. It is wrong. Maybe back then it was needed because our Church needed more children because every day more members were being KILLED and raped in the case of women, by mobs. Joseph himself was murdered in Liberty Jail by the mob.

By the way, you seem to have ignored what I said about Joseph knowing things he shouldn’t... I thought that was liberal strategy?

Look, I’ll leave your religion alone if you leave mine alone. Our church has a dark past. But we have a clean slate now and if my Church ever does something like polygamy again, I will be the first to tell you you were right and leave it. Are we OK here?


40 posted on 07/12/2009 10:41:41 AM PDT by wildlybamboozled (I'm a pro-life, religious, Mormon, and conservative nutcase. You going to say anything?)
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To: wildlybamboozled

Polygamy...

Maybe back then it was needed because our Church needed more children because because every day more members were being KILLED and raped in the case of women, by mobs
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This doesnt make a lick of sense..


49 posted on 07/12/2009 12:29:07 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: wildlybamboozled

Polygamy...

Maybe back then it was needed because our Church needed more children because because every day more members were being KILLED and raped in the case of women, by mobs
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So now your religion will go back to polygamy early and not wait for the mormon jesus to “restore” it, because every day more members are coming to their senses and seeing the light and the book of mormon and mormonism for the damnable fraud that it is and LEAVING in mobs ???


50 posted on 07/12/2009 12:32:25 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: wildlybamboozled

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I guess FARMS is not answering the phone...

Maybe they are asleep...

This always reminds me of that other cult...

Elijah and the prophets of Baal... 1 Kings 18:25-39

1Ki 18:25 Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, “Choose one of the bulls and prepare it first, since there are so many of you. Call on the name of your god, but do not light the fire.”

1Ki 18:26 So they took the bull given them and prepared it. Then they called on the name of Baal from morning till noon. “O Baal, answer us!” they shouted. But there was no response; no one answered. And they danced around the altar they had made.

1Ki 18:27 At noon Elijah began to taunt them. “Shout louder!” he said. “Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened.”

1Ki 18:28 So they shouted louder and slashed themselves with swords and spears, as was their custom, until their blood flowed.

1Ki 18:29 Midday passed, and they continued their frantic prophesying until the time for the evening sacrifice. But there was no response, no one answered, no one paid attention.

1Ki 18:30 Then Elijah said to all the people, “Come here to me.” They came to him, and he repaired the altar of the LORD, which was in ruins.

1Ki 18:31 Elijah took twelve stones, one for each of the tribes descended from Jacob, to whom the word of the LORD had come, saying, “Your name shall be Israel.”

1Ki 18:32 With the stones he built an altar in the name of the LORD, and he dug a trench around it large enough to hold two seahs of seed.

1Ki 18:33 He arranged the wood, cut the bull into pieces and laid it on the wood. Then he said to them, “Fill four large jars with water and pour it on the offering and on the wood.”

1Ki 18:34 “Do it again,” he said, and they did it again. “Do it a third time,” he ordered, and they did it the third time.

1Ki 18:35 The water ran down around the altar and even filled the trench

1Ki 18:36 At the time of sacrifice, the prophet Elijah stepped forward and prayed: “O LORD, God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, let it be known today that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant and have done all these things at your command.

1Ki 18:37 Answer me, O LORD, answer me, so these people will know that you, O LORD, are God, and that you are turning their hearts back again.”

1Ki 18:38 Then the fire of the LORD fell and burned up the sacrifice, the wood, the stones and the soil, and also licked up the water in the trench.

1Ki 18:39 When all the people saw this, they fell prostrate and cried, “The LORD—he is God! The LORD—he is God!” 1 Kings 18:25-39

Some observations:

1. like the prophets of Ball, Joey Smith hijacked the religion of the true God of the Bible..

2. Like mormons the prophets of Ball practiced blood atonement..

3. Like mormons, the prophets of Baal relied on worldly events and themselves to get things done...

4. Like Christians, Elijah depended and believed on the God of the Bible for miracles..

5. Like the prophets of Baal and Baal worship, mormonism and the worship of Joey Smith will be overcome by true faith in the Living God of the Bible..

6. Like the prophets of Baal, ther prophets of mormonism and the mormons do not get anawers from their gods...

7. Like Elijah, a Christian man or woman will ALWAYS get an answer from the Living God of the Bible...

Call unto me and I will answer thee and show you great and mighty things Jeremiah 33:3

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. John 16:13

Jhn 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give [it] you.

Jhn 16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full. John 16:23, 24


51 posted on 07/12/2009 1:00:26 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: wildlybamboozled
Look, I’ll leave your religion alone if you leave mine alone.

Sorry; but I will continue as long as possible to point the fact that MORMONism is NOT christianity and JS was NOT called of the Lord.

The EVIDENCE is too over whelming.

If you wish to merely wave your hands and go on; there is nothing I can do about it.

Only the Holy Spirit can break thru walls of deception.

If you wish to believe JS' claim about PRESBYTERIANism with NO evidence, and to reject your own religions founders statements WITH evidence; there is nothing I can do.


Please - don't think it's personal; for it isn't.


 
 
 


KJV
 Galatians 1:6-9
 6.  I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
 7.  Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
 8.  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
 9.  As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
 
 
 
 
ANYBODY???
 
Like this fine looking fellow???
 
 
 
 
 

2 Corinthians 11:12-15
 12.  But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
 13.  For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
 14.  And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
 15.  Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 
 

Like THESE guys??
 
 
 
 
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
 
 


 
Ephesians 2:1-2 
1.  And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:


 
1 Corinthians 4:17
  For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.
 
1 Corinthians 11:2
   Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
 
2 Thessalonians 2:15
   Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
 
2 Timothy 1:13
   Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
 
2 Timothy 3:14-15
 14.  But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
 15.  And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
 
 



2 Corinthians 11:12

   And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about.

52 posted on 07/12/2009 1:04:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wildlybamboozled
Look, I’ll leave your religion alone if you leave mine alone.

Sorry; but I will continue as long as possible to point the fact that MORMONism is NOT christianity and JS was NOT called of the Lord.

The EVIDENCE is too over whelming.

If you wish to merely wave your hands and go on; there is nothing I can do about it.

Only the Holy Spirit can break thru walls of deception.

If you wish to believe JS' claim about PRESBYTERIANism with NO evidence, and to reject your own religions founders statements WITH evidence; there is nothing I can do.


Please - don't think it's personal; for it isn't.


 
 
 


KJV
 Galatians 1:6-9
 6.  I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
 7.  Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
 8.  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
 9.  As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
 
 
 
 
ANYBODY???
 
Like this fine looking fellow???
 
 
 
 
 

2 Corinthians 11:12-15
 12.  But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
 13.  For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
 14.  And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
 15.  Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 
 

Like THESE guys??
 
 
 
 
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
 
 


 
Ephesians 2:1-2 
1.  And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:


 
1 Corinthians 4:17
  For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.
 
1 Corinthians 11:2
   Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
 
2 Thessalonians 2:15
   Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
 
2 Timothy 1:13
   Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
 
2 Timothy 3:14-15
 14.  But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
 15.  And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
 
 



2 Corinthians 11:12

   And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about.

53 posted on 07/12/2009 1:04:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wildlybamboozled
But we have a clean slate now and if my Church ever does something like polygamy again, I will be the first to tell you you were right and leave it.

AGAIN?

Isn't it enough to PROVE that JS was NOT a Prophet for he IGNORED BIBLE teaching and even teachings of his OWN Book of MORMON!

And so did the leaders who followed him!



TRUTH IGNORED
 
 

Smith, Young, Taylor, Pratt, Snow, Kimball, Woodruff ...

 
 
 

 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
 
 
1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
 
 
 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.




 
BEHOLD!!!!  The Restorative Power  of the Book of Mormon!!
 



 
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
 
  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
 
 

54 posted on 07/12/2009 1:07:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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