The Old Testament was not a BIBLE until the Catholic Church, in union with the Orthodox, combined the Old Testament, including ALL OF THE BOOKS in the Temple at the time of Jesus, with the Books that the ONLY Christian faith at the time, the UNIVERAL Catholic Church, Canonized as the official Bible.
Prior to that time, the Bible did not exist.
Calling a stack of bricks and a barrel of wet mortar a “chimney” would make just about as much sense as calling the teachings of Moses a “Bible” prior to the Catholic Councils which approved the first translated, edited, bound and official text of the Bible. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2286074/posts I suggest you educate yourself by reading the above FR thread on the history of the Catholic Church and the History of the Bible, prior to exposing your ignorance again. And, for the record, the first person in HISTORY to ever refer to the current books of the New Testament, in their current form were Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria, and Pope Damasus : 367 The earliest extant list of the books of the NT, in exactly the number and order in which we presently have them, is written by Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria, in his Festal letter # 39 of 367 A.D.. 382 Council of Rome (whereby Pope Damasus started the ball rolling for the defining of a universal canon for all city-churches). Listed the New Testament books in their present number and order.
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367 The earliest extant list of the books of the NT, in exactly the number and order in which we presently have them, is written by Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria, in his Festal letter # 39 of 367 A.D..
382 Council of Rome (whereby Pope Damasus started the ball rolling for the defining of a universal canon for all city-churches). Listed the New Testament books in their present number and order.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2286074/posts
The Catholic Church had NO PROBLEM with the Orthodox Greek text, as that text was IDENTICAL to the translated Latin text, in meaning. [excerpt]Whatever.
Now, original text is a bad phrase for me to use Unless you have received a direct revelation from God, it would be more objective of you to say that I have faith that no original texts exist.
BECAUSE NO ORIGINAL TEXTS EXIST! [excerpt]
Every single shred of existing parchment or manuscript was, at one time, produced by a CATHOLIC Monk or a Catholic Priest. [excerpt]If you are saying that Catholic monks at one time or another made copies of all existing biblical texts, you are probably right.
Even in the case of the Orthodox, all of the manuscripts and parchments in their possession only survived the ages due to the hard work of Catholic (UNIVERSAL) Monks and Priests. [excerpt]Those are some nice bragging rights you've got there, sonny!
The Old Testament was not a BIBLE until the Catholic Church, in union with the Orthodox, combined the Old Testament, including ALL OF THE BOOKS in the Temple at the time of Jesus, with the Books that the ONLY Christian faith at the time, the UNIVERAL Catholic Church, Canonized as the official Bible. [excerpt]Before the Catholics existed, the Jews canonized the Tanakh.
I suggest you educate yourself … on the history of the Catholic Church and the History of the Bible, prior to exposing your ignorance again. [excerpt]I would like to recommend the same for yourself in regard to the history of the Masoretic text's. (sans any references to exposing the ignorance of my fellow posters, of course)
And, for the record, the first person in HISTORY to ever refer to the current books of the New Testament, in their current form were Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria, and Pope Damasus … [excerpt]So the guy liked to brag.