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To: Hebrews 11:6; plain talk; TaraP; Lee N. Field; Alex Murphy
The author is not violating Jesus' claim that only the Father knows the day and hour. The author is saying only that, as that day approaches, those who are alert will recognize its approach; …

“Therefore you [Jesus’ disciples] also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you [Jesus’ disciples] do not expect.” (Matt. 24:44)

The author is plainly clueless and disregards the text in favor of his theology.

If, as Jesus said, He would come at a time when His disciples would LEAST EXPECT, how can any rational person say that folks can recognize His approach? Why do folks try to make themselves out to be more cleaver than Jesus?

141 posted on 08/05/2009 10:38:29 AM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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To: topcat54; TaraP
You assert that, because Jesus said we can know neither the exact day nor the exact hour of His coming, and that it will be an hour we do not expect, that we can have no sense of its approach. Is that a fair statement of your argument (omitting your dismissive remarks)?

If so, please consider:

1. Jesus could have used words other than day and hour, but He did not. He had "week" and "month" available, for example, but He restricted Himself to day and hour. Are we not free then to recognize the decade, year, month, and even week, if the Lord through His Spirit gives us the sensitivity and understanding to do so?

2. Does not the same Scr ipture which reports Jesus' unknowability of the day and hour also specifically permit and encourage us to recognize their increasing proximity? For in Hebrews 10 it says:
23 "Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful. 24 And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds. 25 Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching."

144 posted on 08/05/2009 12:11:17 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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