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Why Catholics Will Not Get Abortion Out of the Health Care Bill
Inside Catholic,cim ^ | 8/03/09 | Deal Hudson

Posted on 08/05/2009 1:52:45 PM PDT by Salvation

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1 posted on 08/05/2009 1:52:46 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Salvation

Here’s what I think — these Bishops came out (over 100 of them) against Obortion Obama during the election. (I will post the list below.)

Why aren’t they speaking out against the mandated abortion in this bill?? Let alone the mandated euthansia espoused in this bill.

I feel sick to my stomach right now.


2 posted on 08/05/2009 1:55:02 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation

Notre Dame = football, basketball and abortion. ND can go to h*ll.


3 posted on 08/05/2009 1:55:04 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: nickcarraway; Lady In Blue; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; Catholicguy; RobbyS; markomalley; ...
Over 100 Bishops Have Spoken Out on Priority of Life Issues
Posted on October 28, 2008, 11:59 AM | Deal W. Hudson
The list of U. S. bishops who have spoken out on the priority of the life issues in this election is now over 100. The list now contains 70 individual bishops and three joint statements.
I would like to continue updating this list until the day of the election. I have tried to incorporate all the comments thus far. If I dd not get them all, I apologize. (For a few of the suggestions, I could not find a suitable link.)
Please continue using the comments section to let us know what bishop is not on this list who should be. This would include any bishop who has individually, or jointly, published a statement about this election pointing out the primacy of the life issues.
Thank you for your help.
1. Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver
2. Bishop James Conley, auxiliary of Denver
3. Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C.
4. Justin Cardinal Rigali of Philadelphia, chairman of the Committee on Pro-Life Activities
5. Bishop William Lori of Bridgeport, chairman of the Committee on Doctrine
6. Edward Cardinal Egan of New York
7. Bishop Samuel Aquila of Fargo
8. Bishop David Zubik of Pittsburgh
9. Bishop Michael Sheridan of Colorado Springs
10. Archbishop Jose Gomez of San Antonio
11. Bishop Oscar Cantu, auxiliary of San Antonio
12. Bishop William Murphy of Rockville Centre
13. Bishop Edward Slattery of Tulsa
14. Bishop Kevin Farrell of Dallas
15. Bishop Gregory Aymond of Austin
16. Sean Cardinal O'Malley of Boston
17. Bishop Thomas Wenski of Orlando
18. Archbishop John Nienstedt of Saint Paul/Minneapolis
19. Francis Cardinal George of Chicago, President of the USCCB
20. Bishop Robert Vasa of Baker
21. Bishop Jerome Listecki of La Crosse
22. Bishop Richard Lennon of Cleveland
23. Bishop Ralph Nickless of Sioux City
24. Archbishop George Niederauer of San Francisco
25. Bishop Glen Provost of Lake Charles, LA
26. Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio of Brooklyn
27. Bishop Joseph F. Martino of Scranton
28. Archbishop Raymond Burke, Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura
30. Bishop Peter J. Jugis of Charlotte
31. Bishop Michael F. Burbidge of Raleigh
32. Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, KS
33. Bishop Robert Finn of Kansas City-St. Joseph, MO
34. Bishop Robert C. Morlino of Madison, WS
35. Bishop Ronald
Gilmore of Dodge City, KS
36. Bishop Paul
Coakley of Salina, KS
37. Bishop Michael
Jackels of Wichita
38. Bishop Gerald M.
Barbarito of Palm Beach
39. Bishop Kevin W.
Vann of Fort Worth
40. Bishop Rene H. Gracida, retired, of Corpus Christi
41. Daniel Cardinal DiNardo of Houston
42. Bishop Paul S. Loverde of Arlington
43. Bishop Francis X. DiLorenzo of Richmond
44. Bishop William Murphy of Rockville Center
45. Bishop Robert McManus of Worcester
46. Bishop Arthur Serratelli of Patterson
47. Bishop Robert Herrmann of St. Louis
48. Archbishop Edwin O'Brien of Baltimore
49. Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted of Phoenix
50. Bishop Thomas D. Doran of Rockford
51. Bishop Joseph A. Galante of Camden
52. Bishop Robert J. Baker of Birmingham
53. Archbishop Alexander J. Brunett of Seattle
54. Bishop J. Peter Sartain of Joliet
55. Bishop John M. Smith of Trenton
56. Bishop Earl Boyea of Lansing
57. Bishop Leonard R. Blair of Toledo
58. Bishop Frances J. Dewane of Venice
59. Bishop W. Frances Malooly of Wilmington
60. Bishop Robert Morlino of Madison
61. Bishop John Yanta , retired, of Amarillo
62. Bishop James V. Johnston of Springfield-Cape Girardeau
63. Archbishop John Vlazny of Portland
64. Bishop Blase J. Cupich of Rapid City
65. Bishop Lawrence Brandt of Greensburg
66. Bishop Dennis M. Schnurr of Cincinatti
67. Bishop Larry Silva of Honolulu
68. Bishop Paul Swain of Sioux Falls
69. Bishop Michael J. Sheehan of Santa Fe
70. Bishop Eusebius Beltran of Oklahoma City
71. Bishop Kevin C. Rhoades of Harrisburg
72-94. Joint Statement by the bishops of New York State (22 bishops)
95-111. Joint Statement by the bishops of Pennsylvania (16 bishops)
112-116. Joint Statement by the bishops of Kansas (4 bishops)
117-126. Joint Statement by the bishops of Florida (9 bishops)
Added by me
 
127. Bishop Tobin -- http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=30333 ^
 
128. Archbishop Wilton Gregory  georgiabulletin.org ...
 
 
130. Archbishop Elden Curtiss Omaha http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2123119/posts?page=1
 
131. Bishop Carlson's of Michigan pastoral letter in full, go to:
http://www.saginaw.org/images/election-statement_carlson_102...

 

Catholic Ping!

4 posted on 08/05/2009 1:57:51 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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We all need to contact our bishops and ask them to speak out against the aortion and euthanasia in the Obamacare bill.

Bishops listed by Diocese

Bishops by Name

Bishops listed by state

5 posted on 08/05/2009 1:59:35 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Frantzie; Mrs. Don-o; topher

This isn’t about Notre Dame, this is about Obamacare.


6 posted on 08/05/2009 2:01:26 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation

I feel the devil is hard at work, and we all need to pray long and hard for this country.


7 posted on 08/05/2009 2:01:40 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Frantzie; Mrs. Don-o; topher

This isn’t about Notre Dame, this is about Obamacare.


8 posted on 08/05/2009 2:01:43 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Unam Sanctam
Organizations in that link above

My jaw just hit the floor as I read it.

Here's the links to voice our displeasure at their point of view.

CHA declined any further comment on the matter.

To express concern:

Catholic Charities USA
66 Canal Center Plaza
Suite 600
Alexandria, Virginia 22314
Phone: (703) 549-1390
Fax: (703) 549-1656
info@catholiccharitiesusa.org

Sister Carol Keehan, President and CEO
The Catholic Health Association
1875 Eye Street NW, Suite 1000
Washington, DC 20006-5440
phone: (202) 296-3993
ckeehan@chausa.org

Society of Saint Vincent de Paul
58 Progress Parkway
St. Louis, Missouri 63043-3706
phone: 314-576-3993
fax: 576-6755
usacouncil@svdpusa.org


9 posted on 08/05/2009 2:09:11 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation

Notre Dame showed that many Catholics, at least what I call “Notre Dame” (faux) catholics with a small c, could care less about abortion. They (50+%) love Obama and voted for him.

Notre Dame fawning over Obama allowed Obama to realize he can push abortion and do whatever he wants and catholic universities will give him awards.

If you still don’t understand - Thank Notre Dame for “punking” real Catholics who actually give a sht about stopping baby killing. Notre Dame can go to h*ll.


10 posted on 08/05/2009 2:09:19 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: Salvation
What do you think?
I think I'm confused. (no offense meant)

I downloaded a pdf copy of HR 3200 and searched with Adobe's excellent search function for any reference to 'Abortion', or 'Choice'. And not a single 'hit' came back in any of the 1017 pages to those words.

Now I've seen scores of article like this that keep saying Abortion is in the bill, but they never say where in the Bill it is. For other 'hot button' issues like for the Elderly a section is referenced, but never in articles about abortion.

So like I say, I think I'm confused.

11 posted on 08/05/2009 2:09:58 PM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Condor51

Do another search.

It’s called ‘family planning’ in the bill.

What cowards they are to not even use the word abortion or Freedom of Choice.

It’s there — trust me.

Go to “Stop the Abortion Mandate.com (I think) to register your name on a petition.


12 posted on 08/05/2009 2:13:42 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation

They don’t come out against this because the extermination of millions of unborn humans is less important than a promise of “health care” to millions of humans who managed to survive to be born. Abortion kills humans who are rarely if ever seen and never heard. So it is much easier to ignore those people than it is those against whom the “right” to abortion has not been exercised and who are able (and inclined) to complain about their lot in life.


13 posted on 08/05/2009 2:15:29 PM PDT by scory
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To: Frantzie

I understand what you are saying about Notre Dame. We all railed against it here on FR.

This one is about Obamacare. And if we don’t voice our views to the bishops, then we all need to contact our senators and representative to voice our views.

Those elected officials aren’t there to do what THEY want, but what WE, their consituents want.


14 posted on 08/05/2009 2:16:01 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation
It’s called ‘family planning’ in the bill.
ah-ha! I'll search again, thanks.
15 posted on 08/05/2009 2:16:02 PM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Condor51

page 425 if I remember correctly.


16 posted on 08/05/2009 2:17:42 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: wagglebee; narses; cpforlife.org; Coleus; Mrs. Don-o
Please ping your lists.


17 posted on 08/05/2009 2:20:11 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation
Why aren’t they speaking out against the mandated abortion in this bill?? Let alone the mandated euthansia espoused in this bill."

What does the bill contain on these two issues? Any source to read?

18 posted on 08/05/2009 2:20:11 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Salvation

It is about funding the murder of babies in ObamaCare (plus killing granny).

Thanks to Notre Dame’s efforts - Obama will think he owns Catholics. Catholics or any opposition from GOOD Catholics has been marginalized by Notre Dame and the stupid & liberal AMERICAN catholic church. I am sure the Pope did not approve of Notre Dame giving awards to someone who supports about and the worst forms of abortion.


19 posted on 08/05/2009 2:21:16 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: ex-snook

I’ve received several downloads in emails. Let me see if I can find a link.


20 posted on 08/05/2009 2:22:12 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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