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Catholics are coming home
Deacon's Bench ^ | September 6, 2009 | DEACON GREG KANDRA

Posted on 09/06/2009 3:50:15 PM PDT by NYer

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"I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat? Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him." - John 6:51-56

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41 posted on 09/06/2009 7:20:33 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Edgewood Pilot
I believe the Catholics helped get Mr. Obama elected.

Despite any scientifically valid data to the contrary...

42 posted on 09/06/2009 7:22:43 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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Most Catholics voted for Obama in the 2008 election and give him positive marks for his performance in office thus far.

Obama won 54% of the overall Catholic vote in the November presidential election.

This according the the Pew Research Center.


43 posted on 09/06/2009 7:32:28 PM PDT by Edgewood Pilot
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To: Edgewood Pilot
Obama won 54% of the overall Catholic vote in the November presidential election.

The Pew data is based on non-random, non-scientific polling data.

It is scientifically meaningless.

44 posted on 09/06/2009 7:33:58 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: paul544
This catholic left because I’m sick of the church turning the other cheek on abortion. Despite what they church says, it really isn’t against abortion. This greedy church is all too happy to not risk $$ from abortionists. If it were true to its own teachings it would excommunicate every last pro-abortion catholic. And would never have allowed the abortionist-and-chief to go to Notre Dame.

Paul 544, herewith a post of mine on the occasion of Kennedy's funeral, posted 08/30/09:

"A personal odyssey. My wife and I were both raised Catholics and both went to Catholic schools. Now in my 60s I still attended Mass faithfully and received Communion weekly.

For years I was bothered by the fact the Church would take no action against pro-abort politicians like Kennedy, but I deferred to the Church's judgement. There was also the pedophilia scandal which almost bankrupted the Spokane diocese north of me (I am in the Yakima diocese), but again I deferred to the episcopate. Surely these people know what they are doing and have the best interests of the faithful at heart, don't they?

Then came Obama at Notre Dame. Watching aged nuns and priests be arrested while that man was an honored guest at a "Catholic" institution named after our Holy Mother was finally more than I could bear. That order at ND is under the direct supervision of the Pope and he and the order's prefect did nothing (in fact the prefect defended the invite). Judas Jenning, Order of Pontius Pilate, is still running ND and the Church, while constantly giving lip service to its Pro-Life position, did nothing, does nothing.

That the Church honors this pagan who poses as a Catholic doesn't surprise me in the least. It sickens me but it does not surprise me. After all just how much money have the Kennedys given the Church over the years in order to buy its silence and cooperation, such as buying their jokes of annulments?

Needless to say I am no longer a practicing Catholic, for as Ronald Reagan said of the Democrats, I didn't leave it, it left me.

And just so you won't think I am only critical of the Catholic Church for its inconsistencies, I point the same accusing finger at our Mormon friends. One of your apostles once called abortion "the greatest evil of our time" (perhaps paraphrased, but reasonably close). That was one of your apostles, guys, a rather exalted person in your Church, no? So then explain to me why Harry Reid is still a member in good standing?

Will our side ever take a firm stand on anything?"

I received some very kind, very concerned replies from some Catholics of here for which I am grateful, but it changes nothing. A few days later there was a story on here about how that pos Jenkins refuses to drop charges against those arrested for protesting in defense of Life and against Obama being honored at ND. Meanwhile the Church does nothing, says nothing. Jesus decried the hypocrites of His day. I do likewise and absolutely refuse to be an accomplice any longer in this travesty.

Good luck and God's speed my friend.

45 posted on 09/06/2009 7:34:30 PM PDT by Robwin
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LOL! That has to be the best I’ve come across.


46 posted on 09/06/2009 7:35:34 PM PDT by elizabethgrace (Looking for Van Jones? Check under the bus....lol.)
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To: Robwin

Spiritual intellectual weakness is a burden. I will pray you overcome such shallow formation.


47 posted on 09/06/2009 7:38:34 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Robwin

Well said.


48 posted on 09/06/2009 7:39:54 PM PDT by Edgewood Pilot
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To: Edgewood Pilot

You congratulate error.


49 posted on 09/06/2009 7:43:52 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Edgewood Pilot
I believe the Catholics helped get Mr. Obama elected.

The Catholics? Maybe you mean "the democrat Catholics"?

You know, the same "Catholics" who routinely reelect their likeminded, pro-abortion Catholics such as Leahy, Biden, Kennedy and the slew of other digraces.

50 posted on 09/06/2009 7:44:19 PM PDT by elizabethgrace (Looking for Van Jones? Check under the bus....lol.)
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To: big'ol_freeper
"Spiritual intellectual weakness is a burden. I will pray you overcome such shallow formation."

Indeed. Catholic grade school graduate, Catholic High School graduate (when the Church was the Church), and Adult Religion classes.

I pray you will overcome ignorance before you speak and your overweening spiritual pride.

51 posted on 09/06/2009 7:44:24 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: Edgewood Pilot
I believe the Catholics helped get Mr. Obama elected.

So did white people, black people, etc. Are you going to leave the human race?

52 posted on 09/06/2009 7:48:34 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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“So did white people, black people, etc. Are you going to leave the human race?”

Of course not !


53 posted on 09/06/2009 7:56:20 PM PDT by Edgewood Pilot
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To: Petronski
Exit polls are typically fairly accurate, within 4-5%. The fact is that Catholics broke for Barack Obama, while those hated, illegitimate, evil evangelicals overwhelmingly voted for McCain. If Catholics voted for McCain like the evangelicals did, we'd have President McCain, VP Palin, and Senator Obama.

Draw the conclusion that you will, but when the majority of Catholics vote for a President who holds clearly anti-Christian viewpoints, and when you have many ex-Catholics here saying the exact same thing, maybe it's time to look at the errors of the Church.

But I know, the "Church" can never make an error, it is without blame, it is perfect in all that it does. Right?

54 posted on 09/06/2009 7:59:32 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the Defense of the Indefensible)
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To: Edgewood Pilot
“So did white people, black people, etc. Are you going to leave the human race?” Of course not !

Then fight for the Church as you would for America. Bad eggs in both that we need to overcome.

55 posted on 09/06/2009 8:00:58 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

How can you fight the errors of the Church when it does not err, by definition? It is never wrong; it is the sole arbiter of what is correct and what is Christian. Thus to argue against the Church would be to commit heresy.


56 posted on 09/06/2009 8:03:56 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the Defense of the Indefensible)
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Thus to argue against the Church would be to commit heresy.

That, in my opinion only refers to matters of faith and dogma. Obama doesn't fall into either category as far as I'm concerned.

57 posted on 09/06/2009 8:06:39 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Petronski
Here's another thread on pro-abortion Catholics. What do you think your infallible Church will do with Cardinal McKerrick? You know, the Cardinal who gets to vote for the next Pope?

What if the next Pope agrees with Cardinal McKerrick, and accepts pro-abortion supporters as full Catholics? Will you change your acceptance too, since the Church is never wrong?

58 posted on 09/06/2009 8:09:30 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the Defense of the Indefensible)
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To: buccaneer81

Then why the concern over the fact that a majority of Catholics voted for Obama, and that you have Cardinals praising pro-abortion Catholics?


59 posted on 09/06/2009 8:13:08 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the Defense of the Indefensible)
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Then why the concern over the fact that a majority of Catholics voted for Obama, and that you have Cardinals praising pro-abortion Catholics?

I am concerned. But just as a majority of Americans voted for Obama and we have so-called secular leaders backing him, I can't abandon my country. And, as much as I've had my issues with the Church (as a divorced and remarried Catholic) I can't abandon it, either.

60 posted on 09/06/2009 8:16:59 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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