Posted on 09/17/2009 7:10:22 AM PDT by restornu
Go understand “quantification” before you debate with the big kids.
Well, why don’t you explain instead of being deliberately obscure?
I noted the following on your account’s webpage:
“Absolutely no flaming! These Devotional /Caucus threads are intended to be ponder in nature. If a particular day’s offering says nothing to you, please just go on and wait for the next day. Consider these threads a DMZ of sorts, a place where a perpetual truce is in effect and a place where all other arguments and disagreements from other times and places are left behind.
Thank you for your respect! “
So why the about-face or were you insincere and deliberately missleading when you posted this info about yourself?
I agree that there is no motive in today’s post other than to denigrate others rather than truly trying to understand the issue. We are exhorted by God to refrain from such trivial arguments that only seek to divide.
Wait a minute. Does that mean Mary, mother of Jesus had two husbands, Father God and Joseph?
I wondered what all that early Mormon polyandry was all about.
I do not discern the chesed(lovingkindness) of Yah'shua.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
ding ding ding - We have a winner.
Mormon formula:
The Heavenly Father (one God) has sex with the Virgin Mary to impregnate her with Jesus (another God). Later, Jesus (another God) is sacrificed by the Heavenly Father (First God) to help men “progress eternally (becoming yet more Gods)....
....who can then create planets with their own Virgin Marys, who these new Gods can have sex with to start the process anew....
I see a very confused mind
The Lord shows his Son and the Son teaches man as spoken in the scriptures.
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Here God is giving instructions to others to know how to do things
And God said, Let there be light
And God said, Let there be a firmament
And God said, Let the waters
And God called the dry land Earth;
And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass,
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament
And God said, Let US make man in OUR image,
Jesus said in John 5
19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
2 Peter 1
12 Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth.
13 Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance;
14 Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.
15 Moreover I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease to have these things always in remembrance.
16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, (creeds) when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that NO prophecy of the scripture is of any PRIVATE interpretation. (creed)
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
The Trinity is a standard Christian belief. 99%+ of Christian denominations hold the Trinity as a core belief. We’re talking everything from Catholics to Methodists to independent Baptists.
Christains that do not believe in the Trinity are the minority. A very, very small minority (1% max.)
If you come across any group calling itself christain that does not belive in the Trinity, LOUD alarm bells should start going off in your head. This group is not practicing anything near standard or accpeted Christianity.
Let me emphaized again. The Trinity is a standard Christian doctrine accepted by 99%+ of Christians and Christaian denominations througout the world.
So you are apparently saying the Bible is an instruction manual on how to create our own godhood and planets. Got it.
LOUD alarm bells should be going off in your head right now.
Yes. Mormons are not Christian
That Catholics are polytheists, but somehow other Christians that “have the exact same belief” in the Trinity are not. Mutually exclusive.
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Cahtolics are not polythiests as far as the Trinity is concerned. You could put the Pope and Jerry Fallwell in a room and when it came to the Trinity they would be in exact agreement.
Alex Murphy posted this parody and did not idenitify so I searched the blog by the same author wrote the Trinity.
Mormon Elder Punished For Buying $300 Burgerhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2341357/posts
I don't have a problem with that. All I am doing is adding infinities.
To know God is to love Him, and to love Him is to know Him.
So love love love Him. May be then you will know know know Him.
Too simple? Perhaps. But effective.
-Theo
I don’t understand it so it can’t be true.
Well put. Our choices in life have consequences, both physical and spiritual; God lays down boundries to protect us and teach us. It would be cruel, unfair, and mean of God NOT to punish sin; should Hitler get off scott free? the difficulty becomes that the level of perfection we need to be one with God is beyond us, so Jesus' sacrifice allows us to be clean enough to be one with God. There is punishment for evil, and Grace to allow us to rise beyond our shortcoings.
The mature response to God is gratitude that He would provide Grace to overcome our wilfullness and arrogance. We try to aim high, and when we do fail in the little things, Jesus is there to council us and forgive us. For myself, I am grateful to God that time and again, I can begin again, and am not stuck with in a hole with my failings, preventing me from even trying.
I am told that the Jehovah's Witnesses reject the Trinity because they belive Father+Son+Spirit equals 3 gods, and we are only to worship God. True, 1+1+1=3, but if you know a little math, 1x1x1=1. Works well for me.
Catholics may disagree with other Christians on some points, but on the Trinity we are in absolute agreement.
(We'll leave out for the time being the fringe goofballs who have started baptizing in the name of "Mother, Child and Womb" or "Rock, Redeemer, and Friend".
“The call finished with Donna speaking a prayer which begun “God, thank you for being such an awesome God…””
Beyond a mormon’s understanding that God is Awesome.
That speaks volumes.
I perfers sticking to the scriptures not creeds!
Creeds was started around 325 AD
Before that time there were no creeds taught by the authorized servants called by the Lord!
It is like todays Constitution so much has creep in that it is not the same as the founding fathers set up.
It is the nature of man to rearrange things for their own personal comfort but it still is NOT what was author wrote or the words the Lord originally given.
the Lord taught us how to pray and discern and to use the comforter who will teach each of us all things and to bring to rememberance.
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