So, around that time is a....century??
Posted on 09/17/2009 7:10:22 AM PDT by restornu
www.tinyurl.com/mind-of-the-maker
The greatest book on the Trinity ever written. At least, the only book on the Trinity ever written that has a belly laugh on every page. By Dorothy L. Sayers.
And it's so respectful, too. Maybe the blog, and not the $300 hamburger, was why Mormon Missionary / Elder Cooper had been fired as district leader and moved to a different area....
Alex it is a blog it is a parody
Creeds was started around 325 AD
Before that time there were no creeds taught by the authorized servants called by the Lord!
Oh, resty, you are the best tool our side has got. :)
This is NOT Mormon it is mainline Christian has nothing to do with LDS
That is demonstrably untrue, as can be seen by anyone who clicks on the link.
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In other words the Trinity was not from nor about LDS it from this students parody on mainline Christiains the blog is a parody from a 19 year old biology major who is a a vocal supporter of secularism and skepticism and is equally avid in his criticism of fundamentalism, pseudoscience and mysticism.
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About
Andrew ‘Bef’ Milne is a 19 year old biology major at the University of Western Australia who firmly believes that writing in the third person makes his statements sound more credible and authoritative.
Bef is a vocal supporter of secularism and skepticism and is equally avid in his criticism of fundamentalism, pseudoscience and mysticism.
Bef is sometimes labelled a ‘religious bigot’, especially in relation to his activism against the Church of Scientology. Bef does hate Scientology, he also hates Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Norway. He does not hate Scientologists, Christians, Muslims or Jews. He does, however, hate Norwegians.
You are welcome mother creedy!
Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great:
He appeared in a body,
was vindicated by the Spirit,
was seen by angels,
was preached among the nations,
was believed on in the world,
was taken up in glory.
--I Timothy 3:16
Actually, you made it wrong.
People like having more than one god, so Catholics believe in three
Completely wrong; we believe in one God -- one divine substance -- who is manifest in three Persons (identities).
This is contrary to our ordinary experience, but not contradictory at all. (As Frank Sheed points out: you are a single person with a single substance -- your human nature. One person, one substance. A rock is a single substance but not a person. Zero persons, one substance. What is self-contradictory or illogical about understanding God to be three Persons and one substance? Nothing.)
The OT is perfectly clear that there is only one God. (Isaiah 43 and following. Try it on a Mormon sometime. They have no explanation for it.)
So Jesus did not believe in "three gods" when he said "baptize them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit". The only possible explanation for the obvious equality of "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" in that expression is that they are three co-equal persons.
And that's the orthodox belief, "the Father is God, and the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, but there are not three gods but One God. And the Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Spirit, and the Spirit is not the Father." (Athanasian creed)
Other religions that have exactly the same Trinity, are indeed called heretical by the Catholics.
If they have "exactly the same Trinity" they are Christians, and, while they may be heretical on other points, they are orthodox on that one.
As I said, you didn't "make it simple," just wrong.
That's false; the Apostles' Creed was the Roman baptismal creed a century or more before 325.
I said around!
Have you grown so desperate to try and prove with facts that the "burning in your bosom" is more than heartburn that you would post the blogged shenanigans of a guy who writes this on his "about" page:
Andrew ‘Bef’ Milne is a 19 year old biology major at the University of Western Australia who firmly believes that writing in the third person makes his statements sound more credible and authoritative.
Bef is a vocal supporter of secularism and skepticism and is equally avid in his criticism of fundamentalism, pseudoscience and mysticism.
Bef is sometimes labelled a ‘religious bigot’, especially in relation to his activism against the Church of Scientology. Bef does hate Scientology, he also hates Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Norway. He does not hate Scientologists, Christians, Muslims or Jews. He does, however, hate Norwegians.
I mean really Resty, I have heard of scrapping the bottom of the barrel, but not under it...
I hope your desperation does not extend to hatred of Norwegians also, they are a fine people...
You know this to be true?
Oh, good. I am glad to read you have apparently stopped believing the BoM and JS.
So, around that time is a....century??
Well said Campion. Nice work.
Exactly! I hope resty sees your post so that she can see that creeds are contained in the Bible. Resty also must believe that this is NOT a creed.....LOL
http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,106-1-2-1,FF.html
1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.
3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.
Joseph Smith
Heck; some folks can’t even UNDERSTAND what Joseph Smith claimed was UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism!
And then there’s the Graysonians: Tester, Redeemer, Comforter.
http://www.webscription.net/chapters/0671578642/0671578642.htm?blurb
Just like Joseph Smith could not READ!!
"the husband of one wife" thingy was LOST on him, even though he 'translated' some missing Golden Plates® that said EXACTLY the same thing!
1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
1Co 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
1Co 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
Christians don seek a sign...Christians don't seek after the wisdom of the world...
2Co 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
God never said we need to understand how the Trinity works...He only said we have to believe in it...
All three entities of the Trinity in one place or another in the NT are referred to as the Lord...
Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Either Jesus was lying thru his teeth, or He is God...You won't get rest for your soul from anyone other than God...
I'll take the Trinity, whether I understand it or not...
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