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To: Godzilla; wintertime
So which is it - do you agree with the teachings of the mormon GA's since the start of the lds church - that the Amerindians are descended from Lehi; or a group of professors at BYU that claim Lehi/Nephi settled a very small piece of ground somewhere in central america?

Yes, as Godzilla said this is why we see "the cognitive dissonance."
One the one hand, as Godzilla said: The GA's are the mouthpieces for mormonism. Maxwell/FARMS is not authorized to speak for mormonism.

On the other hand, we're even seeing lds.org news releases referencing FAIR articles on DNA & even private Web sites likes Jeff Lindsay's (how desperate is that when they start linking to one-man show sites?)

The quandary Lds is sized up in this thread's posted article by De Groote of the Mormon Times, who says: ..to believe the critics are right about DNA, you must believe they are right about their narrow interpretation of the Book of Mormon and statements by select general authorities of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

But see, Mormons have heard for generations -- and their apologists have repeated back to us, that "No, Lds leaders will not lead us astray." Yet, here we have Lds journalists conceding that "critics" quoting "select general authorities of the church" is actually a PROBLEM to their attempt to make this apology work!!!

Mormon Research Ministry, in the same link I gave as last post, said: Speaking in conference in October 1921, Elder Andrew Jenson, a member of the staff of the LDS Church's Historian's Office, stated, "We, therefore cast a glance southward into old Mexico and through the great countries beyond -- down through Central America and South America, where there are millions and millions of Lamanites, direct descendants of Father Lehi." (Conference Report, October 1921, p.120, emphasis mine).

Are there "millions and millions of Lamanites, direct descendents of Father Lehi?" -- or is this another "what you hear @ a general conference might not be so?)

MRM also said: On page 601 of The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, the twelfth Mormon prophet stated, "About twenty-five centuries ago, a hardy group left the comforts of a great city, crossed a desert, braved an ocean, and came to the shores of this, their promised land. There were two large families, those of Lehi and Ishmael, who in not many centuries numbered hundreds of millions of people on these two American continents" (emphasis mine). Probably the most damning quote that undermines this notion that the Lamanite genetic link could have been lost to the point of nonexistence is found on page 596 of the same book. Kimball wrote, "Lamanites share a royal heritage. I should like to address my remarks to you, our kinsmen of the isles of the sea and the Americas. Millions of you have blood relatively unmixed with gentile nations" (emphasis mine).

Therefore, MRM asks: The obvious question is, "How do you lose the genetic link of millions of people who allegedly have not mixed their blood with another culture?"

16 posted on 09/18/2009 3:23:08 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian; wintertime
The quandary Lds is sized up in this thread's posted article by De Groote of the Mormon Times, who says: ..to believe the critics are right about DNA, you must believe they are right about their narrow interpretation of the Book of Mormon and statements by select general authorities of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Indeed! The lds GA have only endorsed the Hemispheric theory and have specifically spoken against the LG theory. Which GA's have specifically endorsed the LG theory? Roberts came the closest that I can find in 1920.

So who holds the prophetic mantle - the GA or BYU scholars?

17 posted on 09/18/2009 3:51:25 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Colofornian
The obvious question is, "How do you lose the genetic link of millions of people who allegedly have not mixed their blood with another culture?"

They all DIED; you foul ANTI!

--MormonDude(even people fooled by KINDERHOOK would know THIS!)

31 posted on 09/18/2009 10:49:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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