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1 posted on 09/19/2009 12:35:00 PM PDT by Jedediah
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To: Jedediah

Boy, that was what I needed this afternoon. Really uplifting. Not.


2 posted on 09/19/2009 12:56:34 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ein Volk, Ein Riech, Ein Ein.)
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There is no 5 fold ministry anymore - the Apostles laid the foundation, as the Bible says. It is complete. The church is building on that foundation.


3 posted on 09/19/2009 12:59:11 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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The Eastern Orthodox place much theological emphasis upon personal holiness, which is usually manifestated in an austere existence and accompanied by miracles of some sort. They aren't as bad as seeing The Blessed Virgin Mary in potato chips as you find in Roman Catholic Church. No real saint would own a bag of potato chips. Miracles, signs, visions, etc. are important, for they reflect their theology of theopoiesis.
If you don't build your soteriology upon personal holiness, but upon Christ's imputed holiness, the lives of certain saints only serve as examples. In fact, from the perspective of imputed holiness, all Christians are saints. This is the huge theological divide that created the Protestant Reformation.
5 posted on 09/19/2009 3:30:21 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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later


7 posted on 09/19/2009 4:32:04 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Saint Seraphim warned us about sources who appeared to be other than what they were.

How appropriate!

“It came from Me” Did you ever stop to think that everything that affects you affects Me as well? For everything that has to do with you also has to do with apple of My eye. You are precious in My sight, very precious, and I love you. It therefore brings me special joy to educate you. I want you to know that whenever a flood of the enemy’s temptations enemy has descended upon you, it came from Me.

I want you to know that in your weakness, you need My strength, and that your safety lies in giving Me the opportunity to defend you. Did you ever find yourself in difficult straits, among people who did not understand you, who did not consider what you liked, who kept aloof from? Know that this was from Me.

I am your God, Who orders circumstances. It was no accident that you found yourself in that specific place; it was the very place I had appointed for you. Did you not ask that I teach you humility? Thus, I set you into that specific milieu, in the school in which that lesson could be learned. Those around you, those living with you, are merely acting according to My will. If you were ever in financial difficulties, if it was hard for you to make ends meet – that came from Me.

For I manage your resources, and I want you to run to Me, to know that you depend upon Me, that my store of resources is inexhaustible. I want you to become convinced that I faithfully keep My promises, so that in your time of need, others might not be able to say to you “Don’t believe your Lord God.” Did you ever spend the night in sorrow? If you were estranged from loved ones and neighbors, I sent you that.

I am the Man of sorrows, who knows the meaning of sickness. I allowed it so that you might turn to Me and in Me find eternal comfort. If a friend, someone to whom you had opened your heart, disappointed you, that also came from Me.

I allowed you to be touched by that disappointment, so that you might recognize that the Lord is your truest friend. I want you to bring Me everything, and to talk to Me. If someone slandered you, present it to Me, and with your shoulder lean closer to Me, your refuge, so that you might be sheltered from wagging tongues. I will bring out your truth like a bright light and and your fate like noonday. When your plans fell through and you felt downhearted and exhausted, that was from Me.

You had made your own plans, you had your own intentions, and you brought them to Me for My blessing. However, I wanted you to allow Me to decide and order the circumstances of your life, for you are merely an instrument and not an active participant. When in your secular life you encountered unexpected misfortunes, when your heart was seized by despair, know that it came from Me.

For I want your heart and soul to always be ablaze in My sight, to defeat with My name any faint-heartedness. If, because those dear to you infrequently get in touch with you, your faint-heartedness and weakness of faith cause you to fall into discontented grumbling and despair, know that that also came from Me.

It is through this troubling of your soul that I test the strength of your faith, the immutability of your promises, and the daring of your prayers for those dear to you. Was it not you who entrusted your cares for them to My providential love? Was it not you who still entrusts them to the Protection of My Most-pure Mother? If you were struck by a serious illness, whether temporary or incurable, and you became bedridden – that came from Me.

I wanted you to come to know me even more even better through your bodily ills, so that you would not complain about all of these trials sent to you, so that you would not strive by various means to discern my plans of salvation of human souls, so that instead you would obediently and without complaint, would bow your head before My grace for you. If you ever dreamed of doing some special work for Me, and instead lay down on your bed of illness and weakness, that was from Me.

For you would have been burdened with your own affairs, and I would have been unable to attract your mind to thoughts about Me. Yet I want to teach you My most profound of thoughts and lessons, so that you might be in My service. I want you to comprehend that you are nothing without Me. Some of My best children are those who are cut off from active work, so that they might learn to use the weapon of ceaseless prayer. If, unexpectedly, you are called to take on this difficult and responsible position, put your trust in Me. I entrust you with these difficulties, and for them, your Lord God will bless you in everything you do wherever you go; in everything, your Lord will be your Director and Teacher. On this day, My child, I have placed in your hands that container of Holy Oil. Make free use of it. Always remember that every difficulty that arises, every word that offends you, every wrongful accusation or condemnation, every obstacle to doing your job that could evoke disappointment, disillusion, disenchantment, every manifestation of weakness and impotence will be anointed with this oil. That came from Me.

Remember that every false accusation is an instruction from God. Therefore, instill in your heart those words I have told you today: It came from Me.

Keep them, know them and always remember them, wherever you might go. The pain of every sting you endure will be blunted if you will but learn to see Me in everything. I sent everything to perfect your soul. It all came from Me.


9 posted on 09/19/2009 6:33:49 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Jedediah

Citation, please? I looked this up, but the prophecies of St. Seraphim I found were nothing like this in nature.


14 posted on 09/20/2009 3:12:39 AM PDT by dangus (I am JimThompson)
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