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To: Monkey Face; DelphiUser
I need no Scripture to verify my belief and love in Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savoior.

Then bear your testimony. (Just -- as you define your jesus -- please tell us if you distinguish your jesus from how the Mormon jesus is defined in post #23?)

IOW...is your jesus a savior AND a saved being?
...is your jesus one savior among many?
...is your jesus one god among many?
...is your jesus one who can be prayed to directly? (3 Nephi 19:6-26)
...is your jesus one who can receive worship from you "with all your might, mind, and strength, and your whole soul" (2 Nephi 25:29)???
...And if you adhere to 2 Nephi 25:29, how many gods do you worship whole-souled? Whole-strength? Whole-minde? Whole-might?

35 posted on 09/20/2009 5:44:11 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

You are SO confused! I said it loud and clear and if you can’t understand it, then....ohwell....


37 posted on 09/20/2009 5:45:52 PM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for ForgotenKnight, my army hero grandson.)
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To: Colofornian; Monkey Face
IOW
...is your Jesus a savior AND a saved being?

No, Jesus was perfect, he is the savior.
...is your Jesus one savior among many?
That depends on how you define a savor, Jesus is "The Savior", but a missionary is a savior in that he goes out and brings souls to Christ. Maybe I'm making this too complicated. Jesus is my savior, and the only one I need, clear?
...is your Jesus one god among many?
Jesus is my only God, and he and his father are one in the way the Bible says they are one God.
...is your Jesus one who can be prayed to directly? (3 Nephi 19:6-26)
You can pray to whomever you want, you have agency. In the Bible and the Book of Mormon, Jesus taught men to pray to God the Father.
...is your Jesus one who can receive worship from you "with all your might, mind, and strength, and your whole soul" (2 Nephi 25:29)???
The goal is definitely to worship God in the entirety of our heart might mind and strength, few if any of us accomplish that task.

...And if you adhere to 2 Nephi 25:29, how many gods do you worship whole-souled? Whole-strength? Whole-minde? Whole-might?

One, Jesus gave an analogy on this oneness in John 17:21-22
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
even as we are one, the Goal is to be one with God even sa Jesus is one with God.

It always seems to come down to the belief by "orthodox" Christianity that the Trinity is a correct doctrine, even thought it was fashioned by Constantine, a pagan Roman emperor, who fashioned the doctrine to facilitate a political healing of his fractured empire. I have a lot of info on this on My page, complete with sources from the Catholic encyclopedia on line, IMHO, everyone should go and read the sources, even if they don't like my conclusions, at least then they will be educated on the topic.
84 posted on 09/20/2009 7:06:33 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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