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Can imperfect scriptures lead to God?
Mormon Times ^
| Sept. 21, 2009
| Michael R. Ash
Posted on 09/21/2009 5:51:47 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: LeGrande; Diamond
Could it be that the Bible isn't the word of GOD? No. It's just a lot more likely that you're wrong than the Bible.
The Bible is full of fulfilled prophecies. Just because you don't want to believe them, doesn't make them untrue.
You're fooling no one. The only one who thinks you're clever is you.
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posted on
09/21/2009 9:37:32 AM PDT
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: svcw
The O.T. is laden with prophesies concerning Jesus, some fulfilled, some yet to come. Woe to those atheists who will experience some of them in person.
I do not talk to the atheists here, I can only pray for them and hope that folks like you might get through to them some day, therefore I pray for you too. They’re way to smart for me if they are smarter than God.
God bless you in your efforts.
To: Graybeard58
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posted on
09/21/2009 9:44:46 AM PDT
by
svcw
(Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
To: Graybeard58
Atheist are not smarter than you nor God. If they were they would not be atheist.
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posted on
09/21/2009 9:48:57 AM PDT
by
ejonesie22
(There's something socialist in the neighborhood, who ya gonna call? MITTBUSTERS!)
To: colorcountry
You didnt even see it coming, did you? ;) I am not much of a prophet am I? : (
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posted on
09/21/2009 9:58:23 AM PDT
by
LeGrande
(“Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under” H.L. Mencken)
To: Buck W.
46
posted on
09/21/2009 10:16:18 AM PDT
by
stuartcr
(If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
To: Colofornian
Did anything Smith say, come to pass?
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posted on
09/21/2009 10:17:05 AM PDT
by
stuartcr
(If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
To: LeGrande
Yes, it certainly does say a lot. It seems that those that make lots of prophecies, usually have some of them come true.
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posted on
09/21/2009 10:18:47 AM PDT
by
stuartcr
(If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
To: Colofornian
God is ALL powerful. MORE powerful than CNN and FOX together. HE could put himself into human form and project HIMSELF into everyone’s living room at the same time. HE could speak to all of us simultaneously - and personally. HE doesn’t do that because it would take away our free will and the GIFT of Faith. If HE wanted us to KNOW, we would KNOW. Accept faith - grow spiritually...
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posted on
09/21/2009 10:24:53 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
(When I hear "New York Times"-fair or unfair-what I hear is "New York Times Whore House"...)
To: LeGrande
No evidence is required to dispute claims devoid of any evidence. Exactly my point concerning your original implicit, presumptuous claim of universal knowledge. I'm not squirming, I merely hold you to your own standard. Thus, I am not required to dispute claims devoid of any evidence
The burden of proof is on you to falsify my claim.
See what Judge Land said to Orly Taitz about who has the burden of proof in an injuction, the Plaintiff or the Defendant. Same kinda deal here.
Cordially,
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posted on
09/21/2009 10:37:50 AM PDT
by
Diamond
(``)
To: stuartcr
How would the validity of the scripture be show(n)?
Some clues...
John 14:8-11
8. Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
9. Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, `Show us the Father'?
10. Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
11. Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.
John 10:37-38
37. Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does.
38. But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."
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posted on
09/21/2009 11:19:21 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Safrguns
1. That the book of Mormon is held in higher authority against the BibleAnd I really don't know WHY.
NONE of their SACRED rituals so proudly and purposefully done in the Temple are even FOUND in the book!
They could get rid of it entirely and NOTHING would change in their practice of their religion.
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posted on
09/21/2009 11:21:02 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: mdmathis6
I will say though that as I have heard him speak about his faith, I dont hear a lot of prophet Josephisms coming from from him...but I do hear a lot of Jesus Christ is the divine son of God type comments. It shows that HE got the memo; too!
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posted on
09/21/2009 11:22:26 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Diamond
Your implicit claim of omniscience should probably been taken with a grain of salt.
You are a sad, little man.
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posted on
09/21/2009 11:24:43 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: LeGrande
Not even God could be omniscient, just look at Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.Well!
THAT certainly proves it!
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posted on
09/21/2009 11:25:50 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Brookhaven
They decided to pick a religion to raise their kids in, looked around and chose Mormonism because of the family values it imparted. And one day they will choose a church that has the path to the Cross.
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posted on
09/21/2009 11:27:14 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: LeGrande
Elsie is a man and you are a women, who would have thunk it? But I can give references!
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posted on
09/21/2009 11:28:03 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: colorcountry
Of course as an ex-mormon atheist, Im sure you will argue against every one of them.Well... when you believe SO strongly that MORMONism is correct and ALL the others are wrong; what ELSE would you turn to when finding MORMONism comes up lacking?
(Right Binger? ;^)
But not to worry; we keeping praying for a Damascus road experience for all who think they are right. Even me...
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posted on
09/21/2009 11:32:46 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Utah Binger
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posted on
09/21/2009 11:33:13 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Colofornian
Can imperfect scriptures lead to God?,
____________________________________________
Are those “imperfect scriptures” referring to the book of mormon ???
Then no...
But the scriptures in the Bible record what Jesus had to say about how we come to God..
Jesus said “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes to the Father except by me.” John 14:6
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