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Does God Expect Me to Stay Married to a Jerk?
Christian Post ^ | 9/22/2009 | S. Michael Craven

Posted on 09/22/2009 7:29:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: bvw

You will lose this one big time. Go back even to the beginning. The real reason for the fall of man was not only because of disobedience, but the selfish and self-centered desire to “be like God”. Remember the admonition of Paul in Romans 12:1- “ Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God - this is your spiritual act of worship.” And of course, “God’s act of mercy” was the ultimate act of self-denial when Christ, blamesless in all respects, offered himself up as an atoning sacrifice for our sins on the cross. In fact the whole Bible is about the self-centeredness of man being the primary sin separating us from God, and his call for our self-denial to acknowledge him as God and denial of ourselves in the treatment of other people.


141 posted on 09/22/2009 7:33:20 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: RatRipper

Losing the self is far worse. The best marriages are two selfish people. The worst — a selfish and a selfless. The muddle through is two selfless.


142 posted on 09/22/2009 7:36:45 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

YOu are correct about the worst, but you have the other two reversed . . . IMHO


143 posted on 09/22/2009 7:43:36 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: bvw
self⋅ish
   /ˈsɛlfɪʃ/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [sel-fish] Show IPA

–adjective
1. devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others.
2. characterized by or manifesting concern or care only for oneself: selfish motives.

Origin:
1630–40; self + -ish 1

Related forms:
self⋅ish⋅ly, adverb
self⋅ish⋅ness, noun

Synonyms:
1. self-interested, self-seeking, egoistic; illiberal, parsimonious, stingy.

144 posted on 09/23/2009 7:34:22 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: sauropod

read


145 posted on 09/23/2009 7:35:40 AM PDT by sauropod (People who do things are people that get things done.)
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To: ShadowAce

Webster 1928:

SELF’ISH, a. Regarding one’s own interest chiefly or soley; influenced in actions by a view to private advantage.

http://1828.mshaffer.com/d/word/selfish

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In a marriage two become one. The interest of the self is also the interest of the spouse. That is also a needed form of selfishness. But the first and primary form — looking out for the best interest of one’s own self — is what is missing in failed marriages, imo.

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Did you know that many modern couples and marriage counselors and theories are socialistic tripe? They all have some things that work, the truth that saves a lie, so to say. Now stop being little marxists.


146 posted on 09/23/2009 7:52:48 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Theo

So be tired. The 1611 has more tools that work with it than any other version.
God has seen fit that it is still with us.
I suppose you shall simply have to remain tired uf us.


147 posted on 09/23/2009 8:35:31 AM PDT by SentForth5 (Just sayin' is all...)
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To: mikeus_maximus

“Ah yes, the old assumption that because there are so many “opinions”, there must be no objective truth that men with honest hearts and average intellect can understand alike. But why would anyone honestly think that the Creator of the universe, our Maker, cannot communicate clearly with us, or that He would send His own Son to be tortured to death for our rebellion...only to leave behind a muddled, subjective, and incomprehensible message of salvation?”

Matthew 16:15-17 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven.

1 Corinthians 1:18 For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

1 Corinthians 2:14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and his is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.

Matthew 11:25-27 At that time Jesus declared, “I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was your gracious will. All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”

John 8:47 “Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.”

“The plain language of the Scriptures teaches that understanding and accepting the Truth depends entirely on an “HONEST HEART”— that’s what the Parable of the Soils in Luke 8 is all about!”

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?

Romans 3:10-11 None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God.


148 posted on 09/23/2009 8:41:24 AM PDT by paulist
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To: Lurker

You haven’t understood the verses I sent you.


149 posted on 09/23/2009 9:24:51 AM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: Lurker

>“I have come to change the Law” Jesus.<

Do you have a citation for that quote? My Bible says he came to fulfill the Law.


150 posted on 09/23/2009 10:33:09 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: Biggirl

No, they make it easier for lazy minds to READ the Bible.
Very very impotant benchmarks and key words have been changed purpously in the “new” versions.
Don’t get mad at me for loving my fellow Christians...I give fair warning.


151 posted on 09/26/2009 3:41:41 AM PDT by SentForth5 (Just sayin' is all...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Does God Expect Me to Stay Married to a Jerk?

Well now, Jeremiah 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

So since God is a divorcee, and He did tell us why He divorced Israel, the question would then need be what does it mean to be a jerk?

152 posted on 09/26/2009 3:48:15 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: SentForth5
God Himself is divorced.

Not anymore, He's not.

153 posted on 09/26/2009 3:52:39 AM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: Just mythoughts
So since God is a divorcee, and He did tell us why He divorced Israel, the question would then need be what does it mean to be a jerk?

Note that Israel worshiped other idols ( which in God's eyes, is adultery). Jesus repeated the same thing when He actually said this in Matthew 5:32 :

"But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery."

Your spouse could be a jerk without being unfaithful. I'm not sure if the Bible teaches that divorce is allowable because your spouse is a jerk.
154 posted on 09/26/2009 8:34:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: roamer_1

Suit yourself, but the wedding hasn’t taken place, yet.
Unless you were at one the Bible didn’t tell me about.


155 posted on 09/26/2009 8:10:55 PM PDT by SentForth5 (Just sayin' is all...)
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To: SentForth5
Suit yourself, but the wedding hasn’t taken place, yet. Unless you were at one the Bible didn’t tell me about.

Isaiah 53 is the Cross. Who is the Barren Woman in Isaiah 54?

156 posted on 09/26/2009 8:29:28 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: roamer_1

Dost thou forget the Law?
Even divorced, the wife remains married, but I care not to argue with fellow Christians, we will have an eternity to discuss these things, and I do not feel like teaching ordinances today.
I am just glad the two of us will always have time for discussion, for there shall be time no longer.
We will say today that you are right.


157 posted on 09/27/2009 5:26:12 AM PDT by SentForth5 (Just sayin' is all...)
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