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1 posted on 09/23/2009 5:18:34 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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2 posted on 09/23/2009 7:46:33 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm not a princess, this ain't a fairy tale.)
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"If you have something important to say to your Father, why would you stare at your brother when you're speaking to Him?"

That is indeed the fulcrum on which the prospects for reunification turn. Note that much in the liturgical reform of Vatican II is of no concern to the Orthodox, who in any event will keep their own rite, but the orientaton (or is it occidentation?) of the priest is, unfortunately, a clear sign of disunion.

3 posted on 09/23/2009 9:01:05 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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There are some good points in this and some things are important (ad orientem for example), but it would be a gross oversimplification and overreaction to call this anywhere near a reunion. As far as I know, the real obstacle, if not a stumbling stone, is the jurisdicitonal role of the pope.

Once that is overcome (and this will require compromise or redefinition, or both), there is the issue of the next Ecumenical Council being summoned by the pope and the impossible attempt of mending and reconciling the theological rift.

The Church will not be united until both "lungs" profess the same faith, which means all theological issues must be resolved, prior to reunification.

6 posted on 09/24/2009 12:10:59 AM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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Cheevers said that Orthodox liturgists have always tended to cringe at the post-Vatican II liturgical reforms of the Latin Church. "Organic development in liturgy is permissible. Radical invention is not."

Yes yes and yes!!!

Although I might add that the implications of this eminently sensible position extend farther than some traditionalists may be willing to go. Alcuin Reid, mentioned above, makes a point about the reform of the Breviary by St. Pius X....it really was a gutting and recasting of the old Roman Divine Office. If I remember right, Reid says that autocratic move by the Pope and the timid resistance to it among religious helped lay the philosophical groundwork for the Novus Ordo 60 years later.

Whaddya think jrny? I know you have some wisdom on all this!

7 posted on 09/24/2009 5:46:31 AM PDT by Claud
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8 posted on 09/24/2009 5:56:31 AM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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9 posted on 09/24/2009 5:57:37 AM PDT by narses
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Great to see you back Brian, you have been missed around here!


10 posted on 09/24/2009 6:24:42 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Coincidence?

Pope to visit Fatima next year?
September 24, 2009

Government officials in Portugal report that Pope Benedict XVI plans to visit the shrine of Our Lady of Fatima next year. The report indicates that the Pope will make the trip in May, to preside at celebrations for the feast of Our Lady of Fatima, May 13. The Vatican-- which ordinarily does not confirm a papal trip until a few weeks before it takes place-- has not commented on the reports.

Pope John Paul II traveled to Fatima on three occasions during his pontificate, making his final trip in 2000 to preside at the beatification of Blessed Jacinta and Franscisco Marto, two of the three children to whom the Blessed Virgin appeared there. (The third Fatima seer, Sister Lucia Santos, died in 2005; a cause for her beatification was opened in 2008, after Pope Benedict waived the rule requiring a 5-year waiting period.) Pope John Paul had a special devotion to Our Lady of Fatima, crediting her with saving his life when he was shot in St. Peter's Square on her feast day: May 13, 1981.

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14 posted on 09/24/2009 3:26:43 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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Good to see you doc.


15 posted on 09/24/2009 6:24:22 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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