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Latinos with perceived Jewish roots, "returning" to Judaism
Vivificat - from Contemplation to Action ^ | 25 September 2009 | TDJ

Posted on 09/25/2009 6:16:35 AM PDT by Teófilo

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1 posted on 09/25/2009 6:16:37 AM PDT by Teófilo
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To: NYer; Salvation

PING.


2 posted on 09/25/2009 6:17:25 AM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Teófilo

The ones named “Jesus” are going to have an identity crisis...


3 posted on 09/25/2009 6:18:03 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

lol


4 posted on 09/25/2009 6:19:08 AM PDT by Ancient Drive (And so I´m leaving ground - I leave the skylines of my life - I plough new lifelines in my skin)
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To: Joe 6-pack

That would be “Jesús” and yeah, you’re right. :-D


5 posted on 09/25/2009 6:20:41 AM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Teófilo

..and after their traditional religious dinner, the Nunez’, in keeping with another Latino-Jewish tradition, steal hubcaps from the neighborhood cars then sell them at retail prices....

To those who may be offended by the above post.....This was intended for comical purposes only. I have never met nor heard of a Latino Jew and have no idea what traditions they practice. If I were to come across one, I would of course refuse to pay retail prices for stolen hubcaps....


6 posted on 09/25/2009 6:26:24 AM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: EAGLE7
steal hubcaps from the neighborhood cars then sell them at retail prices...

I think you meant "skullcaps." Let's keep it straight here.

-Theo

7 posted on 09/25/2009 6:31:46 AM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: EAGLE7

Jews came to the new world after the Moors were kicked out Spain. They had to convert of else, however.


8 posted on 09/25/2009 6:32:16 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Unassuaged

A significant part of the Palace of Governors museum at Santa Fe is dedicated to the Jewish immigrants who came with the Spanish and Moors. Also notable amongst the first to arrive were the Lebanese traders. Because of the strong arm of the Church, the Jews were “required” to convert. So, in the day, in the sight of the priests, they were Catholic, and at night they were Jewish. It is still that way in some communities.


9 posted on 09/25/2009 6:46:15 AM PDT by Concho
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To: Joe 6-pack
Can you point to and name the original Puerto Rican Jew?


10 posted on 09/25/2009 6:47:22 AM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: EAGLE7

“I have never met nor heard of a Latino Jew and have no idea what traditions they practice”

I once worked with a woman who claimed to be a Latino Jew. Actually she was Jewish. The Latino part showed up when it became advantageous to be Latino where we worked. (Latinos got time off to attend special conferences on being Latino, more affirmative action, etc.)


11 posted on 09/25/2009 6:49:34 AM PDT by spaced
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To: cll

LOL!!


12 posted on 09/25/2009 6:51:56 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Teófilo

Those must be the ones that came from the tribe of Morons, or something like that. You know the Mormon leftovers before their supposed big battle that they just can’t prove, along with all their other assertions. </sarc>


13 posted on 09/25/2009 6:56:20 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“returning to Judaism”?

I’d rather they return to Mexico.


14 posted on 09/25/2009 6:57:07 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: Teófilo

A Jew on a remote south pacific island with no connection to Judaism for 30 years met and fell in love with a non-Jewish woman and decided he wanted to get married. So he contacted (yes, the island has internet and phone service) the nearest rabbi possible and asked him an important question. “Rabbi, I have had no connection to Judaism in 30 years. I met a wonderful woman. We are in love. We are going to get married. I want to do this right in her eyes and I am going to accept upon myself her religion and customs. Please tell me, what is the procedure to terminate my Jewish status? How do I officially cut the cord?” The rabbi replied, “If after 30 years of no connection—no kosher food, no synagogue, no tefilin, no Torah—you still feel like there is a connection to ‘cut,’ then there is nothing that can sever your connection.”

The point is, that for a halachic Jew(ie, per Jewish religious law, a person born of a Jewish mother) the bond can never be severed. So I offer this friendly dogmatic counter-point to your dogmatic point.


15 posted on 09/25/2009 7:02:21 AM PDT by jdlevy95
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To: raptor29
I’d rather they return to Mexico.

We are not all from "Mexico." Some of us are even from "here". Perhaps you should return from whatever country your ancestors came in a boat from, if you don't like us to be here. Would make things even and easier for all of us.

-Theo

16 posted on 09/25/2009 7:12:02 AM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: jdlevy95

Touché!

-Theo


17 posted on 09/25/2009 7:12:26 AM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Teófilo

No, I won’t need to return because I support what this country represents, I support the American institutions and the Constitution and the laws that have enabled this country to become what it has become. So there’s no need for me to leave. I follow the laws. I work for a living, I support myself and my family. I do not free-load off the taxpayers of this country. I don’t choose to disregard some laws because they are inconvenient to me. I don’t overload the medical system by showing up to emergency rooms with a cold, while not paying anything to anyone for that service and the inconvenience I cause. I don’t work ‘under the table’ while also collecting welfare money that I am not entitled to. I don’t bring a ‘corruption is OK’ mindset to this country, this country works to eliminate corruption. My people don’t vote for communists/socialists in overwhelming percentages, all because I might get to freeload to a greater extent.

So you can stick it. When the bulk of “your people” begin to act like Americans, then I will start regarding them as such. Until then, you can all go back and get a good look at the country you were fleeing in the first place, and then perhaps come back here with a clearer mindset and a greater appreciation for this country.


18 posted on 09/25/2009 7:45:35 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: Teófilo

I really am coming around to Father Z’s and, I think, the Pope’s view that the long term health of the Church depends on restoring reverence and beauty to the liturgy. Save the liturgy, save the world! Of course there is the whole issue of sexual immorality being promoted by the culture, but the Church should serenely teach what she has always taught on that score. But I have a hunch that as long as we plod along with the current casual liturgies with sappy pseudo-modern feel good music without any use of the liturgical treasures of the Catholic tradition, the flock and their offspring are just going to keep drifting away.


19 posted on 09/25/2009 8:40:13 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Teófilo

Is this being Jewish the way Hillary Clinton claimed she was Jewish?


20 posted on 09/25/2009 8:55:07 AM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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