Posted on 09/25/2009 1:19:31 PM PDT by NYer
In case you were wondering.
NFP is like saying, “Wow, those cookies look great. But sorry, I’m on a diet right now so I better not.”
Contraception is like saying “Wow, those cookies look great. Let me eat them all but then immediately go puke them all up.”
Contraception is sexual bulimia. You seek a natural pleasure, but you frustrate its natural effect.
NFP requires self restraint. That’s is enough to condemn it in societies eyes. What people don’t understand about the Church and it’s understanding of human sexuality would fill the Grand Canyon.
NFP is actually not supposed to be used as a preventative tool. It is actually supposed to be used for a married couple to learn when is the best time to CONCEIVE. Obviously, it will be used for contracepting as well, but that is not its intent. It also brings a couple closer together as they both take part in planning their families.
Another point about about contraceptives. The pill is not a contraceptive, but an abortifacient. The IUD is also an abortifacient. Many contraceptives are really abortifacients in the guise of birth control.
Too sadly true!
It seems to me that using artificial sweeteners to make the cookies would be cheating in the same way. You eat fake food to gratify your tongue with sweetness without getting the nutrition (calories) that normally accompany the sensation. The natural effect of eating or drinking is that you are nourished.
Maybe that’s why studies suggest that those who drink diet soda tend to be more overweight than those who don’t. They unconsciously eat more to compensate for the missing calories.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20050613/drink-more-diet-soda-gain-more-weight
NFP and Contraception: What’s the Difference?
About six or eight kids.
(sorry...couldn’t help myself....)
Some pills don't reliably prevent ovulation, but do prevent implantation of the fertilized egg in the uterine wall. That is arguably abortifacient because the egg has already been fertilized. The "mini-pill" or very low dosage pill falls into this category . . . which is why such pills (e.g. Yaz) are marketed not as birth control but for regulation of dysmenorrhea and menorraghia (pain and excessive bleeding during menstruation).
The older pills, especially the heavy hitters like Ortho-Novum and Ovulen 21, absolutely prevent ovulation if taken properly. The multi-phase pills like TriPhasil are not an absolute guarantee because they have to be taken faithfully at the same time every day.
Of course, if people can't follow directions all bets are off.
Why is wanting to allow Nature to take her course "crazy"?
Contraception was uniformly condemned by ALL Christian denominations until 1930, when the Anglicans (why are they always at the bottom of stuff like this) decided it was o.k. 'in certain circumstances' and that opened the floodgates.
There are a lot of couples in their 50s who look around and wish they hadn't contracepted all their kids out of existence while they were in their fertile years . . . there's a T-shirt: "OMG! I forgot to have kids!"
What’s wrong with six or eight kids? It’s very generous all the way around.
Why is wanting to allow Nature to take her course "crazy"?
Contraception was uniformly condemned by ALL Christian denominations until 1930, when the Anglicans (why are they always at the bottom of stuff like this) decided it was o.k. 'in certain circumstances' and that opened the floodgates.
There are a lot of couples in their 50s who look around and wish they hadn't contracepted all their kids out of existence while they were in their fertile years . . . there's a T-shirt: "OMG! I forgot to have kids!"
NFP is a remarkably reliable way to achieve/avoid pregnancy without the use of chemicals or barriers during intercourse. Furthermore, NFP puts you so in tune with your body that you can identify problems very quickly. Name me a birth control pill that can do that.
I have 4 kids. I used NFP to both achieve (successfully within months) and avoid. In time my daughters will be carefully taught this method.
If I agree that your chosen method of pregnancy avoidance is reliable, can you not agree that mine is as well?
This is a pet peeve of mine. NFP is in no way, shape or form contraception and can never be used as contraception. NFP does not act against conception, ever, whether it is used to postpone pregnancy or not. That's part of the beauty of NFP, it doesn't keep the body from acting naturally, because if you don't have sex, it is natural to not get pregnant.
Now, NFP could be properly referred to as birth control, because it does allow for both birth and self-control. But it ain't contraception.....
I agree that abortifacients are morally wrong, but God has allowed science in that area. Condoms, though not 100% effective, are not abortifacient nor contain harmful chemicals. I don't see what is morally wrong there. I fully agree that sexual intimacy should be between a husband and wife only, God gave this as a gift and the “marriage bed is undefiled” in his sight. It is not only for reproduction.
I think the problem is that women who are capable of conceiving eight kids are capable of conceiving sixteen kids. I know the Church has to be against contraception, but I don’t think God would care if a woman who’s already had six or eight kids used nonabortiofacient birth control.
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If all Christians unanimously taught that contraception was sinful till about 80 years ago (easily proven), and since then all Christians caved on this issue except the Catholic Church which held strong to the teachings of the Apostles and the Early Church (again easily proven), I wouldn’t say Catholics are crazy so much as everyone else is either deceived or apostate. At least from a Christian moral perspective.
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