No friggin' kidding. Good question. And is a virtual stoning out of the question for a virtual false prophet?
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I’ve got a question that I don’t think is quite covered in the Religion Forum rules.
If a FReeper fancies himself a prophet and posts his prophecies, can he be criticized as a false prophet or does his status as a FReeper somehow protect him?
One thing the Global Warming Alarmists fail to realize is that there is the same amount of water on the Earth now as there was 20,000,000 years ago. If the polar ice caps melt over centuries then the Earth would just go back to a condition it had already been in for Eons.
You need not accuse him yourself. Let the Word of the Lord do the accusing:
“And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.” Genesis 9:11
“If a FReeper fancies himself a prophet and posts his prophecies, can he be criticized as a false prophet or does his status as a FReeper somehow protect him?”
Did the prophetic statements include anything that angered either the ADMIN MOD of the Viking Kitties?
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It would not however be "making it personal" to observe that he has called himself a prophet but that claim and/or his prophecies are false. In that case, to keep the thread from becoming "about" an individual Freeper be sure to cite authorities for discussion, e.g. Bible, Catechism.
If a FReeper fancies himself a prophet and posts his prophecies, can he be criticized as a false prophet or does his status as a FReeper somehow protect him?
The title implies a prophecy another flood (as was in Noah’s day).
The Bible says the test of a prophet is that if even one of his prophecies is wrong, he is a false prophet.
The Bible also says God promised never to flood the world again.
Either the Bible is wrong of this prophet is wrong.
He is a false prophet only if a prophecy does not come to pass...Kinda jumping the gun, aren't you???
A prophet who speaks for the Lord has to be 100% accurate. If he is not... well, I wouldn’t stand too close to him in a thunderstorm :>)
And... as far as I am concerned, there is no immunity. However, look what happened to the children who mocked Elijah. Fair warning... shebears abound :>)
If a FReeper fancies himself a prophet and posts his prophecies, can he be criticized as a false prophet or does his status as a FReeper somehow protect him?
I would think his status as a FReeper protects him against posters "making it personal", in the same way that Catholic FReeper Patrick Madrid is personally protected when Madrid's articles are posted and discussed.
You can always cite Deuteronomy 13 & 20 in the general sense, and leave it to the lurker to decide for themselves...
In Deuteronomy 13:1-5, Moses records the first of two tests to be applied to anyone who claims to be a prophet of God. The first test is a theological one. The second test is a practical one. In the first test, the prophet has managed to correctly foretell the future - and then proceeds to tell believers, in effect, that "since I'm right about the future, I must also be right about who God really is..."13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,A second test is recorded by Moses in Deuteronomy 18:20-22. The second test is the easier one to administer. In this second test, the prophet has proved himself doctrinally correct who God is (i.e. passed the first test, above), but now has to prove his accuracy in proclaiming the future...and he has to be correct 100% of the time....
13:2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
13:5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.In other words, a prophet who is truly hearing from God, will be correct in his/her prophecies fully 100% of the time, and will be in agreement with what prior prophets have announced re God's nature and character. Any less, and God assures us that "prophet" is false.
18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.The apostle John provides an update to Moses' first test - and a command to apply it - in 1 John 4:1-2. Doctrinally, the presumed prophet must worship the true Christ:
4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God.
Romans 12:6 (King James Version)
6Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
1 Corinthians 12:9-20 (King James Version)
9To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
12For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
No friggin' kidding. Good question. And is a virtual stoning out of the question for a virtual false prophet?
I want to know this: Can Jedediah create a rock so heavy that he, himself, cannot lift it?
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