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To: DouglasKC
That's interesting language. You may want to read A Brief History of United Church of God

I had already reviewed the link prior to my previous post. Your link confirmed my "interesting" language. It splintered off when the WWCOG returned to orthodox Christian theology - the alleged shift to "nonbiblical" practices. As such, it has maintained the same set of beliefs that identified it to be non-Christian. Since you do not deny its close association to the WWCOG under Armstrong, do you hold to Armstong's cultic doctrines and false prophecies?

Although many did consider Wordwide Church of God to be "cultic", United Church of God is not the same organization, doesn't have the same administrative structure, and doesn't have the same leadership.

One of the keys that identifies a cult is not necessarily its organizational structure, but its theology as well. Theologically, UCG in its adherence to Armstongism places In continuing to place the teachings of Herbert W. Armstrong above that of the bible, it does carry with it a cultic following of his teachings.

Spiritual discernment should be used for ALL religious teaching and should be verified that it matches up with scripture. Since you have no response to the article am I to assume you agree?

That would be an incorrect assumption. Peal back the layers and your gospel is not much different than what is touted by mormonism. In fact, there are some very close associations - progression to godhood being just another one. Jesus' use of the phrase "gospel of the kingdom" (and parallel derivatives) Jesus was presenting himself as King so that Israel could receive her promise. So that when Jesus said "believe the gospel" He was telling Israel believe the good news that Messiah is here. Jesus' ultimate gospel is presented in John 3:16 - providing the sacrifice to reconcile man to God, providing eternal life.

41 posted on 10/31/2009 12:45:52 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
I had already reviewed the link prior to my previous post. Your link confirmed my "interesting" language. It splintered off when the WWCOG returned to orthodox Christian theology - the alleged shift to "nonbiblical" practices.

Are you making the case that ALL of orthodox Christianity is bible based?

As such, it has maintained the same set of beliefs that identified it to be non-Christian.

I would say that some of the beliefs challenge non-traditional Christianity. But these beliefs are closer to the Christianity practiced by the first disciples of Christ.

Since you do not deny its close association to the WWCOG under Armstrong, do you hold to Armstong's cultic doctrines and false prophecies?

You would have to define "cultic doctrines" since I have no idea what you're referring to.

Since I was never a member of Worldwide Church of God I have no stake in what Herbert Armstong was or was not. But I don't think he considered himself a prophet.

One of the keys that identifies a cult is not necessarily its organizational structure, but its theology as well.

By that definition EVERY religion is cultic because there's not one universal religion.

Theologically, UCG in its adherence to Armstongism places In continuing to place the teachings of Herbert W. Armstrong above that of the bible, it does carry with it a cultic following of his teachings.

Can you show me one doctrine of the Church of God that isn't in agreement with the bible?

That would be an incorrect assumption. Peal back the layers and your gospel is not much different than what is touted by mormonism. In fact, there are some very close associations - progression to godhood being just another one. Jesus' use of the phrase "gospel of the kingdom" (and parallel derivatives) Jesus was presenting himself as King so that Israel could receive her promise. So that when Jesus said "believe the gospel" He was telling Israel believe the good news that Messiah is here. Jesus' ultimate gospel is presented in John 3:16 - providing the sacrifice to reconcile man to God, providing eternal life.

That's a lot of words and theory with a reference to exactly one bible scripture to back it up.

43 posted on 10/31/2009 8:41:00 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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