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Church responds to bishop’s decree ("Holy Love Ministries")
Elyria (OH) Post Chronicle ^ | 11/16/2009

Posted on 11/16/2009 7:16:28 AM PST by markomalley

EATON TWP. — Holy Love Ministries, the Eaton Township site where Maureen Sweeney Kyle and her husband, Don Kyle, operate an ecumenical ministry and pilgrimage site, has received a harsh rebuke from the Catholic Diocese of Cleveland.

Bishop Richard Lennon, in a letter and decree released Nov. 11, declared Sweeney Kyle’s visions to be “not supernatural,” banned clergy from performing sacraments at the 83-acre site, banned Holy Love Ministries from using the name “Catholic” or declaring itself a Catholic group, and discouraged practicing Catholics from going to the site.

In a statement Sunday, Don Kyle said, “We at Holy Love Ministries are and always have been an ecumenical ministry. We have no affiliation with the Diocese of Cleveland. We are sorry the bishop has taken this position. As it has always been, all people of all faiths are welcome to join us in prayer and the peace that heaven offers at this site.”

Sweeney Kyle allegedly started seeing visions of the Virgin Mary in 1985 while praying at a North Olmsted church.


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Good that they are doing that. I wish the Vatican would have them look at other, more universally dangerous groups (e.g., "Catholics for Choice")

1 posted on 11/16/2009 7:16:30 AM PST by markomalley
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2 posted on 11/16/2009 7:19:12 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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The US Bishops in open session have declared the organization “Catholics” For Choice to be false Catholics.


3 posted on 11/16/2009 7:55:56 AM PST by MrLuigi (incompetence)
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Have they published a decree like this one?


4 posted on 11/16/2009 7:56:55 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: markomalley; Alex Murphy
Sweeney Kyle allegedly started seeing visions of the Virgin Mary in 1985

So what makes one person's vision acceptable and not the others?

5 posted on 11/16/2009 7:59:11 AM PST by Gamecock
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It will be ignored, just like the Bishop condemning Medjugorje.


6 posted on 11/16/2009 8:00:39 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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So what makes one person's vision acceptable and not the others?

Any apparition, even one that is "approved" (such as Lourdes or Fatima), is considered to be a "private" revelation...it is up to the individual to discern whether or not it is legitimate or not.

I, frankly, am not certain of all the criteria used to determine which are used in determining whether the Church condemns or accepts an apparition. One of the factors is if a message provided is in disagreement with Church teaching (i.e., the Scriptures and big "t" Tradition).

This document purports to be an unofficial translation of some 1978 guidance given by the CDF concerning the subject. But note I say "purports" -- as it doesn't come from an official source, I'm not able to validate its authenticity. (Also, rumor control is that the Holy Father is supposed to be updating this document in the near future)

Assuming it's a serious question and not a snarky one, thanks for asking.

7 posted on 11/16/2009 8:09:18 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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>>Assuming it’s a serious question and not a snarky one, thanks for asking<<

You’re very kind.
I would have said “Google is your friend.”


8 posted on 11/16/2009 8:21:56 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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I would have said “Google is your friend.”

I always hold out hope that a constructive dialog can happen...until somebody else draws first blood.

9 posted on 11/16/2009 8:24:25 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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Personally, I think “First Blood” was drawn many threads ago.

However, you have the right attitude and I have the wrong one.


10 posted on 11/16/2009 8:27:35 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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My solution is to pray.


11 posted on 11/16/2009 9:47:19 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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Pray indeed we should! I would suggest you go to Holy Love Ministries’ web site and read the messages as well as the response to the bishop’s latest action against them, even though he’s not stepped foot on the property, nor has he sent a representative to investigate. I would like to see the document from Rome requesting his latest decision on this. And I would like the name of the knowledgable person he says he consulted before making his decision. My take on it? Smoke and mirrors from the bishop. Nothing concrete! No real reason for his findings. Yes...pray!


12 posted on 11/17/2009 2:05:41 PM PST by Moeys Mom
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Additional information regarding Maureen Sweeney Kyle:

Claims of Private Revelation: True or False?
An Evaluation of the messages of Maureen Sweeney Kyle
http://catholicplanet.com/apparitions/false03.htm

Claims of Private Revelation: True or False?
An Evaluation of the messages of Maureen Sweeney Kyle (holylove.org), Part 2
http://catholicplanet.com/apparitions/false03b.htm

A prophet without honor in the Catholic Church, Maureen Sweeney-Kyle is building her own religious empire on an 83-acre farm in Lorain County. And making a lot of money for Mary. http://www.apparitionsites.com/pdf-documents/blessed-other-by-laura-putre.pdf


13 posted on 03/23/2011 7:41:53 PM PDT by thomas.yonan
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