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11/08/2009 | WesternCulture

Posted on 11/21/2009 9:42:14 AM PST by WesternCulture

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To: Kolokotronis; WesternCulture

Kolokotronis is right. The Swedes only began to become disagreeable to the Nazis in 1943 when it became obvious the allies would crush them if they kept being such willing servants of the Nazis.


41 posted on 11/21/2009 4:43:47 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: WesternCulture

You wrote:

“Sweden traded with the Nazis, yes, we also traded with Britain etc.”

You traded with anyone willing to pay in other words. Your nation was like a prostitute. As long as the gold was good...well except for that huge amount of stolen Belgian gold your country had to cough up after the war.

“Would you starve your own nation to death, if, God forbid, you became the leader of it?”

So Sweden would have starved if they weren’t such willing lovers of the Nazis? R-I-G-H-T.


42 posted on 11/21/2009 4:46:56 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: WesternCulture

“What you’re really telling me is you discard history books and take pride in posting nonsense on the Internet.”

History says that while others died in the fight against Nazism, the Swedes took advantage of the situation and made money selling vital war materiels. WC, that’s what history books say. Calling the wartime venality of the Swedes nonsense does nothing for your credibility.

“Would you starve your own nation to death, if, God forbid, you became the leader of it?”

Over 1,000,000,000 Greeks died in WWII and the Civil War. How many Swedes?


43 posted on 11/21/2009 4:49:35 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: WesternCulture

I thought Norway was rich because of it’s oil.


44 posted on 11/21/2009 4:50:36 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: CaptainK

its not it’s.


45 posted on 11/21/2009 4:51:06 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: johniegrad

“Which Synod?”

- You seem clever enough to turn Lutheran.

Some propaganda aiming right at you:

Name a Catholic country looking like this upon scrutiny:

(Swedish workers assembling indestructable Volvos in the year of 1993)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0CtvtZFW-4


46 posted on 11/21/2009 4:51:47 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: CaptainK

“I thought Norway was rich because of it’s oil.”

- Norway is extremely rich because of North Sea oil.

Without it, they would be like Denmark.

Denmark is one of the richest countries here on Earth, but the standard of living is not especially high in fact.

I love Denmark, but Helsingör (Northernmost suburb of Copenhagen) and Helsingborg (twin city across the “Sund”/”Sound” of Helsingör) are worlds apart.

In Helsingör, the average car is a VW Golf/Rabbit and few own really nice homes, in Helsingborg the norm is at least one Volvo V70 (hate us for it!) and people own wonderful apartments and houses.

But ok, Denmark is richer than Sweden on paper.


47 posted on 11/21/2009 5:02:48 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: Kolokotronis

Around 35 000 Greeks died in WWII.

Don’t get me wrong. They were patriots and I salute them.

Get this:

Sweden and Finland are unique among small nations in the way they didn’t allow themselves to be scared off by Russia.

Instead, we chose to take Russia on and give it hell.

The only way to go if you ask me..


48 posted on 11/21/2009 5:15:22 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: vladimir998

“So Sweden would have starved if they weren’t such willing lovers of the Nazis? R-I-G-H-T.”

- You’re not fooling anyone around here.

You’re trying to dodge the question.

I put this question to you in my former post;

“Would you starve your own nation to death, if, God forbid, you became the leader of it?”

Now, would you?


49 posted on 11/21/2009 5:30:44 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
So they are rich not because of its Lutheran work ethic or manufacturing but because they spread the oil wealth around.
50 posted on 11/21/2009 5:35:56 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: WesternCulture

You wrote:

“- You’re not fooling anyone around here.”

I’m not trying. That’s why you’re the one coming up with lovely insinuations like Sweden would starve if they didn’t climb into bed with the Nazis.

“You’re trying to dodge the question.”

What question? You’re dodging the fact that Sweden sucked up to the Nazis WILLINGLY.

“I put this question to you in my former post;“Would you starve your own nation to death, if, God forbid, you became the leader of it?””

You never put that question to me. You put it to Kolokotronis.

“Now, would you?”

Did Sweden starve when they no longer had the Nazis to sell their steel to?

Ask Kolokotronis the question, but you can figure out my answer. Sweden didn’t starve when the Nazi empire COMPLETELY STOPPED buying their goods (because Germany was in RUINS!) so your question is pointless and looks like a dodge.


51 posted on 11/21/2009 5:42:27 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: WesternCulture

“Around 35 000 Greeks died in WWII.”

Don’t get me wrong... over 800,000!


52 posted on 11/21/2009 6:41:07 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: WesternCulture
So what do you think about your new "bishop" of Stockholm?

Also, are you going to be developing a new, special liturgy for same-sex unions (just approved by the Swedish Lutherans on Oct 22)?

53 posted on 11/21/2009 6:58:37 PM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Elsiejay

Yes. I read or viewed news items on Norway and Denmark.

However, from what I gather it is somewhat scandalous to report problems if there is any attachment to Islam.

Of course, we have that very same problem here in the US; look no further than Ft. Hood.


54 posted on 11/21/2009 9:09:48 PM PST by incredulous joe ("Live Free or Fight")
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To: Kolokotronis
Both Greece and Serbia each lost about a million people in the fight to the death against Nazi terror, and Russia lost 20,000,000, partially due to the Finnish assistance to the Nazi blockade that starved more than a million Russians to death in Leningrad alone, and partially due to the Swedish supply of war materiel to the Nazis.

But I feel confident that there are millions more Greeks, Serbs and Russians who are proud to be members of such nations, and the material prosperity of characterless nations will not impress them. "What shall it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul?"

55 posted on 11/22/2009 6:14:39 PM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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