[Enosh]

'A person who "knows" there is a God as opposed to "believing" there is a God, will do whatever they think their God wants.'

Human error aside, a person who knows God also knows His will, not think they know it.

"That is what I meant by Religion can pervert the UMC."

And that's what I would call human error.

"Not every atrocity in Abrahamic Religions was committed for self preservation."

Here's where I have to wonder what "in Abrahamic Religions" means. Did God order atrocities, or did they occur due to some other influence?

[IronKros]

Human error aside, a person who knows God also knows His will, not think they know it.

And if his will is to not suffer a witch to live, then they have God's blessing to burn her at the stake? Since they KNOW there is a GOD, and the KNOW his will, they will have no qualms about burning a woman alive.

Here's where I have to wonder what "in Abrahamic Religions" means. Did God order atrocities, or did they occur due to some other influence?

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/atrocity.html


My point being, we can keep the humanism, ditch the religion and have a better moral society.