Judge Romney By His Religion? I Do It, and So Should You.

Race 4 2012 ^ | November 30, 2009 | Alex Knepper

[McGruff]

Those who swear they don't judge politicians on the basis of their faith is a liar.

I usually stay away from the Religious sub-forum but I can't let this comment stand. I don't care what religion he is. I care about what his political views are. Don't presume you know what I am thinking.

[Reno232]

"We accept LDS folks in the cause DESPITE our reservations about their faith."

I find that quite interesting. FR is a politically conservative website established for the furtherance of conservative ideals. Yet, you & the cabal DAILY post threads &/or posts that have absolutely nothing to do w/ the furtherance of conservative ideals but rather to tear down a church or two that don't meet your religious litmus test. Kind of a strange way to accept folks into the cause don't you think?

I haven't said anything about Romney for some time now. During the last cycle, I thought he was the best viable candidate. He certainly has his warts. I don't know that I will back him this next time around depending on what the choices are. I will support the best viable candidate.

Your repeated assertion that LDS folk blindly support LDS pols is annoying at best, & disingenuous at worst. I don't believe there is a single LDS conservative here on this board that supports or makes arguments for Harry Reid, who happens to be LDS as well. I for one, am actively engaged in the overthrow of Reid in fact. So much for that red herring.

I don't begrudge those who don't support Romney. I think there is merit to many of the arguments against him. What I am against, is the non support simply because he is LDS. Does that exist? Ask Amoreperfectunion. He at least has had the intellectual honesty to admit he would never vote for a Mormon for POTUS, period. If you don't believe there are others that believe likewise here, then you probably believe you're doing a great conservative work in carpet bombing Mormons on a daily basis on the anti-Mormon threads.

Very conservative! /Sarc

The day you folks start spending far more time advancing REAL conservative causes here rather than brow beating your conservative brethren b/c of religious beliefs, is the day you may be taken more seriously.

There was a recent thread where conservatives took you guys to the woodshed over your paranoia w/ Mormons. Perhaps you should seek professional help. At the very least, perhaps it would be good to spend time on a conservative site like FR actually advancing the cause, rather than tearing it down through your malicious rants against conservatives that actually do work hand in hand w/ those that have different religious views. You know, kind of like our fore fathers did.

Some of the cabal here probably wouldn't have voted for Washington, Adams, Jefferson, or Lincoln simply because they weren't Trinitarians, or in other words, their view of "real" Christians. Boggles the mind frankly, especially conservative minds.

No wonder the Libs have so much success portraying the right as conservative loons. You guys often give them a lot of ammo. Got to prep for a bus. trip. Have a great week.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Reno,
Hope this finds you well. We disagree on the false teachings of mormonism, but I consider you a friend in the cause.

Some feedback based on your post:

1. Fortunately, I didn’t have to worry about Romney’s involvement in the whole mormonism heresy, since he was a RINO. I could have safely not voted for him without any regard to his mormonism problem.

2. Washington, Adams, Jefferson, or Lincoln - I could have voted for these former presidents. Based on my extensive reading, they were not in cults. Nor would voting for them have elevated the legitimacy of a cult.

Ironically, America’s Great Contribution to Cults came much
later in her history - after the Great Awakening. In the wake of this spiritual event, a number of significant cults arose, including yours (mormonism), scientology, Christian Science, etc. It is a sad contribution of America to the world, but there ya have it.

In any case, Romney-ites have the freedom to run for office without regard to religion. Americans have the freedom to follow their conscience with regard to a host of issues, including religion. What a country!

I hope Romney runs again so I can vote against him. He dropped out before I got the chance the last time.

best,
ampu

[Godzilla]

Amazing how the mormon crybaby effect begins. Mormons are not included with a group of Christians, who as part of their joint statement of faith profess belief the the Trinity. Waa waa go the mormons, why weren't we included . . . well perhaps because you don't believe in the Trinity, but a polytheistic hodge podge of gods and godhood progression that is completely anthetical to the bible.

Now the mittbots come crawling out of their holes - we're conservative too, mean old Christians leaving us out of the picture. News flash for ya Reno - conservatives are also found as hindus, moslems, gays, buddists, wicca, etc - are they doing the cry baby? (crickets) When will mittbots grow up and realize this perpetual whining and crying is not really endearing themselves to others out there and only draw attention to your weird neo-gnostic doctrines of a con man. It is not too difficult to understand, mitt is a rino with a slick hairdoo.

As I said before, if mormons want to make their own manifesto incorporating mormom doctrine - knock ur self out. But I can assure you Christian conservatives won't be crying and whining because WE weren't included.

[greyfoxx39]

Hit and run....stop in long enough to whine about the poor little persecuted mormons, make veiled and unsupported allusions to the "cabal" being "taken to the woodshed", then as usual, have a convenient reason to run away.

[myself6]

Sorry,

I view the guy as a socialist bordering on a marxist and oppose him for that reason. The only time I would even consider his religion would be if he was a muslim, simply because I see all the other religions as benign and not worth parsing.

[reaganaut]

Do you know just how simple it is for anyone who cares to check, just how laughably false your rantings are?

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The truth about BY and the danites are available for anyone who wants to do the research. Go ahead and verify they sources, I have.

http://1857massacre.com/MMM/danites_index.htm

http://mormoncurtain.com/topic_danites.html

http://utlm.org/topicalindexa.htm#Blood%20Atonement

http://www.utlm.org/booklist/titles/reminiscencesofearlyutah_ub021.htm

http://www.utlm.org/newsletters/no106.htm

http://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/bancroftshistoryofutah_chapter5.htm

And the book by Will Bagley (LDS) called “Blood of the Prophets”:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?index=books&linkCode=qs&keywords=0806136391

http://books.google.com/books?id=eakce2R_mdkC&dq=books+on+LDS+blood+atonement&printsec=frontcover&source=in&hl=en&ei=5mwVS-TJCs7vlAfikMHGBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=14&ved=0CD4Q6AEwDQ#v=onepage&q=books%20on%20LDS%20blood%20atonement&f=false

[reaganaut]

Why did Joseph Smith hate the PRESBYTERIANS?

He did not hate the Presbyterians.

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No, he just went around saying they were an corrupt and their creeds abomination before God. But to be fair, he said that about ALL Christian Churches.

[ejonesie22]

RENO RENO RENO!!!

Wow!!!

So what are you doing to further the Conservative cause, huh?

Look at your posts just in the past couple of months, all of them to LDS threads.

Look at the man you wanted for POTUS, one you supported whilst calling yourself a CONSERVATIVE.

Romney would further Conservative goals?

And it was more than just simply you supporting the most viable candidate, you defended him and his health care plan (the biggest “wart” of all) in an exchange with me one time. I am sure there were others.

Irony and comedy, just to gifts you bring to the table.

[Tennessee Nana]

I hope Romney runs again so I can vote against him.
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

You hater you...

[ejonesie22]

You know as I read your post and contemplate Reno's little “seek help” attempt at comedy, I am reminded of Reno's comment about “talking” and such and realize that normally the only place one would converse with a person who believes in non existent fantasy worlds as well as their own superiority and eventual godhood is in a therapy session.

So I think the lot of us are being pretty generous when we try and treat their arguments seriously.

But that's just me.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Hit and run....stop in long enough to whine about the poor little persecuted mormons, make veiled and unsupported allusions to the “cabal” being “taken to the woodshed”, then as usual, have a convenient reason to run away.”

... it’s not a going problem, it’s a growing problem!

[ejonesie22]

Yeah, when exactly did we get "taken to the woodshed”?

If it happened it wasn't an impressive effort...

[Reno232]

Perhaps this thread will refresh your memory:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2381495/posts?q=1&;page=1

[Godzilla]

So I think the lot of us are being pretty generous when we try and treat their arguments seriously. But that's just me.

I've seen enough flit and run disingenous comments to take those arguements far less seriously.

[ejonesie22]

WOW!

Two actual real links in one day.

My cup runneth over...

Now to find the woodshed...

[Osage Orange]

LOL!!

[ejonesie22]

I make an effort at times.

I guess hope springs eternal that once they will pay attention when crafting a response, stop and look at what they are writing and go "I believe what?"...

[americanophile]

"I would vote for a Muslim as POTUS before I would vote for a Mormon."

Well, that's the most ridiculous thing I've heard on a FR forum, perhaps ever. How one could be alive in this time and have any sense of history and make such a statement is quite beyond belief.

[Osage Orange]

You’re just a bigot!