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To: JAKraig
I kind of like their idea that everybody will get a fair shot at accepting The Lord Jesus Christ. They actually teach that if everybody doesn’t get this chance then nobody will be able to have the benefit of it.

JAKraig, I just posted this on the "twin thread":

"ALL those who have not had an opportunity of hearing the Gospel, and being administered unto by an inspired man in the flesh, MUST have it hereafter, BEFORE they can be finally judged. (Lds Presidents book on Smith, p. 471)

Joseph Smith said "ALL." Is the Lds church committed to that? All?
That means all pre-Gutenberg people.
That means all "dark ages" people.
That means all primitive and ancient tribal campfire clans.
ALL. Everybody. Mandated by Smith for EVERY spirit!

I then asked how the Mormon church plans to uncover non-existent records of most of these peoples & people groups?
Seances?
Ouija boards?
Magic 8 balls?
Pet rocks like Smith had?
Extensive searches worldwide for more hidden gold plates?
Mass manufacturing of urims & thummims?

Bottom line, this peddling false hope when we're talking about 98-99% of the coveted records of which Mormons seek having been lost, destroyed or never even existed?

So, tell us, JAKraig, how is that "fair" -- to NOT have a chance at accepting a gospel version just because the...
(a) record-keepers either failed in their mission;
(b) or the record-finders failed in their mission;
(c) or, as in most cases, NO SUCH RECORD of your earthly life ever existed on earth!

13 posted on 12/04/2009 1:27:18 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: Colofornian
then asked how the Mormon church plans to uncover non-existent records of most of these peoples & people groups?
Seances?
Ouija boards?
Magic 8 balls?
Pet rocks like Smith had?
Extensive searches worldwide for more hidden gold plates?
Mass manufacturing of urims & thummims?

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I don't know how they expect to do it, I don't know that they can. I do know that with God all things are possible.

You are correct my wife is a Mormon. I have never known a better person than her. She believes it hook line and sinker and lives it. If we were all as good as her the world would be a lot better place.

In ancient days they did use a Urim & Thunmum. I don't know how they will do the works. On Easter morning the Apostles recorded that they saw Saints that had died in Christ walking around the city resurrected. Maybe in the Millennium those saints will walk with the earth bound Mormons and tell them their name. I don't know, and because I don't know the last thing I will do is make fun of good God fearing people.

I take a very dim view of people who ridicule other peoples beliefs. To a Hindu mine probably seem pretty weird. The point is these people think what they believe is good and brings them closer to God.

14 posted on 12/04/2009 1:57:34 PM PST by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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