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Church celebrates feast of St. Nicholas, the 'original' Santa Claus
cna ^ | December 6, 2009

Posted on 12/06/2009 5:48:31 AM PST by NYer

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To: Kolokotronis
No less a "nut" than Pope Paul VI, the infallible Vicar of Christ on Earth, demoted him because he found no evidence that he had ever been "canonized"!

A lot of things were going on in the last 8-9 years of Paul VI pontificate that lends credence to a theory that FR does not allow on the site. I'll FReepmail you. Like I said, somebody may say it. That doesn't make it true.

81 posted on 12/29/2009 7:08:24 AM PST by Desdemona (These are the times that try men's souls. - Remember Christmas 1776)
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To: Cailleach

ping


82 posted on 12/29/2009 7:16:21 AM PST by kalee (On the fifth day of Christmas my true love gave to me...)
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To: Kolokotronis; Desdemona; eleni121; NYer; FormerLib
Kolo to Desdemona: No less a "nut" than Pope Paul VI, the infallible Vicar of Christ on Earth, demoted him because he found no evidence that he had ever been "canonized"!

Desdemona, saints were not 'canonzied' in those days and are still not 'canonized' in the Eastern Church. Saints are saints if people spontaneously venerate them. The Eastern Church, as the early Church did, follows that practice. There is no formal 'beatification' based on innovations of the Latin side and unkown to the genuine Church.

This is why the Church cannot unite with papal primacy as it is understood in thre West. The Orthodox cannot allow some nut, sitting on the throne in the Vatican, not obligated to anyone, to make such decisions.

83 posted on 12/29/2009 8:16:52 AM PST by kosta50 (Don't look up -- the truth is all around you.)
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To: kosta50
The Orthodox cannot allow some nut, sitting on the throne in the Vatican, not obligated to anyone, to make such decisions.

Stepinac?

84 posted on 12/29/2009 8:30:07 AM PST by getoffmylawn (aka Cool Breeze)
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To: getoffmylawn; Kolokotronis
Stepinac?

As Kolo observed correctly, the problme is that +Nicholas is in question because some nut in the Vatican decides he is, but Stepinac is the kind of material the same nut finds acceptable.

85 posted on 12/29/2009 9:28:13 AM PST by kosta50 (Don't look up -- the truth is all around you.)
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To: Desdemona; Kolokotronis; eleni121; NYer; FormerLib; kosta50
St. Nicholas must be one of the "ones in doubt" then...

Not to the Orthodox Catholic Church, he isn't.

86 posted on 12/29/2009 4:08:21 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: getoffmylawn
He cuts such a saintly image, doesn't he?


87 posted on 12/29/2009 4:11:01 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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