Posted on 12/07/2009 4:27:19 PM PST by SeekAndFind
**Only 31 percent of mainline adults believe they have a personal responsibility to discuss their faith with people who have different beliefs and a minority of them are presently involved in some type of personal discipleship activity. **
A very sad number.
If the gray hair I see every time I’m in Church is any indication, I’d say there is going to be a huge decline in the need for church parking lots over the next 20 years.
Real people aren’t going to sit in the pew for 20 years listening to heresy and stick around.
accepting homo’s for clergy positions and now this ;http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2402432/posts
I’d hate to be them come judgement day.
May be related to a UCC service I attended last year, in which the name of Jesus was never mentioned.
“A very sad number”
Sad because the fact is that most churches do not teach sound doctrine, hence the fellowship doesn’t really know what they believe. How can you witness if you don’t know what you believe? The Lord may tarry for another thousand years but the age of apostacy has begun.
Mainline churches are declining, imo, because they are being so open minded their brains fall out.
Sarcasm aside, the essential problem is they no longer emphasize Sola Scriptura and Christ as The Way, Truth and Life.
What follows from that is the liberal social and economic policies we here at Free Republic disdain so much.
Don’t know if the United Methodist Church is considered “mainline”, but they are going that way, too.
A danger resides in stand alone evangelical churches: hobby horses, the danger of exclusivity, and some other problems. We in evangelicalism would do well to beware, even as we see the Christian churches of yesteryear go the way of the dinosaur.
I know what the Catholic Church believes! I wish more Catholics did too.
Many of the people here on FR know their faith and are willing to speak out.
I think we all wish that there were more. (Can we clone ourselves? LOL!)
Unless of course they might be seeking a parties presidential nomination.
The why is simple; when the spirit departs the body dies.
many Hispanics are found to be leaving Catholicism and joining Protestant churches, but they're mostly settling into evangelical or Pentecostal Protestant congregations.
There is an interesting dynamic. The fast growing churches are being flooded with people of catholic background. There is a kind of cross fertilization going on as mainline protestants become catholics and catholics migrate into especially the "non-denominationl" evangelical movements. The effects are seen not so much at the doctrinal level where doctrines remain pretty firm, but at the level of a kind of sensibility.
Regarding other comments about demographics, my church (a Christian Reformed Church [the more conservative of the two Dutch Calvinist denominations]) has bazillions of kids. I know because I sit in the back. It is amazing to see how many good [any generally well-educated, unlike the liberal stereotypes] folks are having 3-5 kids these days. Gives one hope. It doesn’t mean that our pastor is politically incorrect (he still hates the Iraq war; on the other hand, he did subtly slam the Lutherans for going gay), it just means that preaching the Gospel and holding up the Bible as a guidepost for all of us is an honest and attractive message.
Thank you Evangelicals. The West needs strong Protestant churches.
>>Dont know if the United Methodist Church is considered mainline, but they are going that way, too.
The UMC is considered mainline, and like all mainline churches, it has a problem. They need to attract the young adults, but young adults are confused. They want an all-inclusive, big tent atmosphere that accepts everyone for what they are and never judges or nudges. But, once they get inside, that type of church offers nothing in the way of spiritual guidance and it just becomes a social club for them. They want a huge church, with all the amenities, but don’t want to contribute money or time to make it happen.
Basically, they want a church with everything, as long as someone else pays for it and does all the work. They don’t want to read the Bible or listen to long sermons or to attend in-depth Bible study, but they want the full understanding from their first day. It’s just a reflection of what they want from everything in our sound-bite, special-effects, entitlement culture.
I’m heavily involved in the UMC’s ReThink Church initiative in my congregation and the contradictions between what people want and what they say they need are enough to make you want to give up. But I keep trying to figure out the balance and help create a place where people can come to know Jesus.
This isn’t really all that surprising.
Evangelical Churches have a vibrant faith. They have faith in Christ, faith in the Scriptures, and faith in the workings of the Holy Spirit.
Mainline Churches, for the most part, have become little more than, “Let’s-Dress-Up-On-Sundays-And-Play-Happy-Feel-Good-Hour.” Sure, many of them, such as the Episcopalian Church, have wonderful liturgies but that means nothing when there is no substance involved.
I myself am fond of traditional liturgies, which is why I have not gone the Evangelical path myself. Fortunately, I attend an Anglican church in California - our diocese broke away from the ECUSA and is quite traditional in its faith. Were it not for this, I’d personally probably put aside my love of liturgy for my love of sound doctrine in Christ - outward forms must always take a backseat to living faith.
Catholics, along with Orthodox Christians, are in a unique position in that the nature of their views precludes the idea of the faithful departing the Church. Sedevancatists aside, the more faithful one is to traditional Church teaching the less likely they will be to depart from the Church itself due to Church teaching that it IS the One True Church of Christ. This has granted these Churches an advantage in being able to maintain their more faithful and zealous members. As Protestants, however, we do not believe this about our own denominations and thus the tendency to leave and form new groups when the old are found wanting.
I say bless you if you’re really working to change the UMC.
The mission of that church organization, imho, has become polluted with liberals in leadership positions.
I left it years ago, sad about the situation in the UMC as a whole and at my congregation in particular. We were heavily active in the worship service planning—trying to make it friendlier to younger people while remaining biblical.
Older adherants to the faith didn’t like the loud music. And so it goes.
Long story short, we left.
“Sola Scriptura”
Yeah, I guess if you want a church that rejects birth control, it’s the sola scriptura folks you want... ;)
There are many reasons for why they are declining, but turning away from sola scriptura is not one of them.
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