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To: Titanites; Mr Rogers

From the Gospel of “Saint” John:

Chapter 1

1In the beginning was the WORD, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning.
3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
...
14 THE WORD BECAME FLESH and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

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“In the beginning was the WORD”

CHRIST is “The Word made Flesh.”

CHRIST is the chief cornerstone. He is the rock of our salvation. HE is the “pillar” on which we stand or fall.

Why do we rob Him of His glory and exalt a manmade institution in his place? An insitution that moves Christ, far below even secondary status, yet still claims his name?


17 posted on 12/10/2009 8:51:51 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

As for Peter=Rock, one of the most abundantly substantiated doctrines in the Bible is that Jesus is the Rock, with no such substantiation being given for Peter as such, and the “this” in “this rock” of Mt. 16:18 refers back to the subject of the previous verse, that being Peter’s confession of Christ, and by extension Christ Himself.

The term “this stone” is only used of Christ. (Mt. 21:44) For in contrast to Peter, that the LORD Jesus is the Rock (petra) or “stone” (lithos) upon which the church is built is one of the most abundantly confirmed doctrines in the Bible (petra: Rm. 8:33; 1Cor. 10:4; 1Pet. 2:8; lithos: Mat. 21:42; Mk.12:10-11; Lk. 20:17-18; Act. 4:11; Rm. 9:33; Eph. 2:20; 1Pet. 2:4-8; cf. Dt. 32:4, Is. 28:16) including by Peter himself. Rome’s current catechism even (ecumenically) affirms this interpretation: “On the rock of this faith confessed by St Peter, Christ build his Church”’ (pt. 1, sec. 2, cp. 2, para. 424). And so it is that by the essential faith which Peter expressed is that by which the church overcomes. “Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?” (1 John 5:5; cf (1Jn. 2:13,14,25) And which Peter himself confirms. (1 Pet 5:8-9)

Abraham believed God, and a nation was born, Peter and the apostles believed God, and the church was born (on Pentecost i believe), and as the “household of faith” (Gal. 6:10) and bride of Christ (Eph. 5:25) it exists, as it only consists of those who are born again by faith. (1Cor. 12:13) not by confidence in a perpetuated petrine papacy, which in effect is what Rome fosters, as well as in one’s works.


20 posted on 12/10/2009 9:17:17 PM PST by daniel1212 (Hear the word of the gospel, and believe", (Acts 15:7) + flee from those who hold another as supreme)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
From the Gospel of “Saint” John: Chapter 1 1In the beginning was the WORD, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. ... 14 THE WORD BECAME FLESH and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. *~* “In the beginning was the WORD” CHRIST is “The Word made Flesh.” CHRIST is the chief cornerstone. He is the rock of our salvation. HE is the “pillar” on which we stand or fall. Why do we rob Him of His glory and exalt a manmade institution in his place? An insitution that moves Christ, far below even secondary status, yet still claims his name?

John 1:1 is quoting Genesis 1:1 and if the student in the WORD does not understand Genesis then not even the Words of Christ will have full meaning. And this author does not demonstrate he has even an elementary understanding of what is instructed in Genesis.

24 posted on 12/10/2009 10:10:03 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Why do we rob Him of His glory and exalt a manmade institution in his place? An insitution that moves Christ, far below even secondary status, yet still claims his name?

"We" don't. "Reformers" contrive accusations to flavor their hatred of the Church with "righteous indignation"...simply more vanity.

25 posted on 12/10/2009 10:11:47 PM PST by papertyger (Representation without taxation is tyranny!)
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