Posted on 12/15/2009 1:00:47 PM PST by mentor2k
Remove the log in your eye first....
Can you give me verifiable proof of anyone dear “brother” Oral healed?
I don’t care what “THEY” were saying about John Calvin in his day. Calvin was an orthodox Christian by the Biblical standard while Oral Roberts was a heretic and charlatan by anyone’s standard.
Those who apostatize from the Word always hate those who keep it.
I ignored your question because, again, you're referencing I statement that I didn't make. Where did I write that any part of Jesus' command to "heal the sick" sickens me?
I understand that you're a Word of Faith cultist, so your argumentation, like your theology is duplicitous and deluded.
Wow. Now there’s a stretch. Parishes sending a preacher to school vs. building multi-million dollar mansions and a personal empire.
Calvin didn’t like the Catholic church either, did he?
RIP
You don’t like that, do you? But he did go away to university on the money of the poor. Perhaps, like Oral Roberts, those people wanted to give him the money and didn’t consider it a waste? Unless they were Catholic parishes and then there may later have been some regret.
What does the following Scripture referencing Jesus commissioning the apostles have to do with Oral Roberts having a metaphysical experience of the supposed "power of god flowing through his hands"?
Matthew 10:1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;
3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;
4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.
5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils [NKJV: demons]: freely ye have received, freely give.
Oral Roberts had a gift from God.
Sadly, he let himself become distracted by money. It wound up consuming him, and that consumption harmed his testimony and his ministry.
I still believe him to be a man of God though and believe he has gone home to collect his true treasures in heaven.
LOL. A word of faither accusing someone of being apostate... that puts you up there with the Witnesses, Mormons and Branch-Davidians...
Okay. Maybe we shouldn’t comment on any heresy, false teaching or craziness in the church until we have all removed every last remnant of imperfection in our own lives. Methinks we would be waiting forever while the church was overrun with said craziness. Of course, that’s the situation we have now all thanks to your hermeneutic.
If you are so clueless about The Word and Jesus’ commands - and ‘claim’ to be a preacher - I say you start over again. Your hatred towards an anointed man of God speaks volumes and your NEED to defame him in any way is repulsive.
I’ll leave you with your venom and I’ll continue to walk in peace. I have no further comment for you.
Still waiting of that verifiable evidence of actual healings...
Richard Roberts claims to be a conduit of healing power from God, but that is suspect, because, like his father and all the other current group of healing evangelists, he can only heal the invisible. Missing arms and legs don’t miraculously reappear. Missing eyes are not restored and disfigurements are not corrected. Congenital physical defects are not erased and the mentally impaired are not made whole. He claims to heal that which even he cannot see, through the medium of his television broadcast. Night after night, he calls out healings for various diseases, never specifying the name of the person, or persons, being healed, but tells them to call him when they believe they have been healed. God tells Richard Roberts what kind of disease is being healed at the moment, but neglects to inform him of just who is being healed. The healing portions of the broadcast become so routine, that he falls into a trap of repetition, many times saying that God has told him there will be “...at least 16 people healed tonight...” Apparently God is specific up to the number 16, but after that he is not too sure.
One recurring healing is for those people who have cysts, and it is claimed that they fall from the faces of those who have received their miracle. There seem to be many people who have cysts on their faces, but those people never appear on the television program with their doctors and the documentation to prove their disease and healing. Another unusual claim was that God was healing painful belly-buttons. Now to the person with a painful belly-button, it is no small matter. But are there medical procedures that are sufficient to handle those types of problems that do not require a miracle? The claim of belly-button healings is a symptom of the problem inherent in Richard Roberts’ claims. He eventually trivializes what he claims to be a miracle. Instead of miracles being those events which have no explanation or cannot occur by any other means, they become the relief of lower back pain, claims of cysts falling from faces and healings of painful belly-buttons, none of which are verified. This is trivial nonsense presented as a deep, spiritual movement by the sovereign creator God of the universe. When the real healings are attempted, such as the child who is soon to die of cancer, the reality of what is claimed does become apparent, as the failure to heal for real is seen by the whole world. In that case, there is no invisibility, and failure is always the case. But to the faithful adherents, it makes no difference.
http://www.ondoctrine.com/10roberr.htm
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Still waiting FOR that verifiable evidence of actual healings...
Emotions and feigned outrage in place of facts...
Please... just ONE instance of verifiable healing?
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